12-28-2023, 06:28 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-28-2023, 06:33 PM by jacket3ree.)
Yeah, I don't get the little engine that could mindset, even if it works sometimes (Montgomery, Harbaugh). Stanford has more money to throw at problems than they will admit to having - I saw where the school is 'helping' the AD deal with the move to the ACC and what they gave away in rights just to join the conference. They were paying Shaw obscene amounts of money like this is College Station, so they can throw serious coin at someone to "suffer" living on the mid-Peninsula and playing in a bit of a band box. But that band box can rock under the right circumstances. Maples was electric in the Knight-Lee years.
I agree with StanUSwagger, even if I wouldn't hire some of the specific names on that list with a gun to my head. I like a splash hire, but not just because they are famous. Chris Mullin abjectly sucked at St. Johns (0.447 in four years although his brother died while he was coaching there). We need a coach who hasn't abjectly sucked over several years. The rest of those names would need to be vetted by someone other than Muir. McHale wasn't that great with the Rockets. Isaiah Thomas never made it past the first round of NBA playoffs with Indiana (3 years) and never made the playoffs with the Knicks (2 years). Not great with FIU (0.286, which is a sub-Haase record). Kevin Garnett says he is 'enjoying retirement and does not plan to become a coach anytime soon.' Vince Carter has never coached. I don't mean to rip into your list, but wanted to provide some examples of how it isn't as automatic as we think.
Jarron Collins always comes up during these discussions, but it seems like he is a career assistant (now at New Orleans) and he's already 45. If he hadn't played for Stanford during its glory days, he would be on no one's radar for HC at Stanford.
Shoot. Throw a boat load of money at Becky Hammond.
Remember, Stanford is part of East Coast hoops now. He just has to have an apartment out here. Tough to see someone as accomplished as Wright diving back into a reclamation job, but I don't know what motivates him. He had a sweet gig at Nova and hung it up.
I agree with StanUSwagger, even if I wouldn't hire some of the specific names on that list with a gun to my head. I like a splash hire, but not just because they are famous. Chris Mullin abjectly sucked at St. Johns (0.447 in four years although his brother died while he was coaching there). We need a coach who hasn't abjectly sucked over several years. The rest of those names would need to be vetted by someone other than Muir. McHale wasn't that great with the Rockets. Isaiah Thomas never made it past the first round of NBA playoffs with Indiana (3 years) and never made the playoffs with the Knicks (2 years). Not great with FIU (0.286, which is a sub-Haase record). Kevin Garnett says he is 'enjoying retirement and does not plan to become a coach anytime soon.' Vince Carter has never coached. I don't mean to rip into your list, but wanted to provide some examples of how it isn't as automatic as we think.
Jarron Collins always comes up during these discussions, but it seems like he is a career assistant (now at New Orleans) and he's already 45. If he hadn't played for Stanford during its glory days, he would be on no one's radar for HC at Stanford.
Shoot. Throw a boat load of money at Becky Hammond.
(12-28-2023, 05:42 PM)2006alum Wrote:(12-28-2023, 02:09 PM)norcard10 Wrote: I'd go for Tommy Lloyd
Interesting. Given his longstanding PNW ties, Lloyd wouldn't be West Coast averse (which is my concern with the pie-in-the-sky prospect of hiring Jay Wright, who has long been my favorite college coach of the modern era, and whom I think would fit really well on the Farm. Bennett, my second favorite, at least coached for six years at WSU.)
But man, that going from Zona to Stanford would definitely be a apples-to-oranges switch for Lloyd, because U of A has an entirely different recruiting profile, fan base, and (post Big 12 move) conference dynamic. That said, given that U of A is in dire financial straights, I seriously doubt they could match us if we put serious $ behind an offer.
Remember, Stanford is part of East Coast hoops now. He just has to have an apartment out here. Tough to see someone as accomplished as Wright diving back into a reclamation job, but I don't know what motivates him. He had a sweet gig at Nova and hung it up.
