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Theo Baker, whom many will remember as the young man whose investigative journalism uncovered the MTL fiasco last year, has written an article for The Atlantic about the extremely contentious activism on campus surrounding the Gaza situation.  I didn't know that Theo's ancestry was Jewish, and that provides a very interesting perspective.

It's theoretically behind a paywall, but I was able to open it signing in with my Google account.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archiv...as/677864/

Mods, I know this is "political,"  but I am submitting this because I, most likely like many members of the external Stanford community, was not fully aware of the depth of the turmoil on campus, and the quandary that the administration finds itself in.  I hope this does not morph into negativity.  Feel free to delete if you feel otherwise.

also appears to be here 

https://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog...nford.html

82, I didn't do a paragraph-by-paragraph comparison, but the article you linked seems to have truncated Theo's Atlantic article slightly.  Here's the part the taxprof article left off at the end:

At January’s anti-anti-Semitism event, I watched an exchange between a Jewish attendee and a protester from a few feet away. “Are you pro-Palestine?” the protester asked.


“Yes,” the attendee responded, and he went on to describe his disgust with the human-rights abuses Palestinians have faced for years.

“But are you a Zionist?”

“Yes.”

“Then we are enemies.”

Neither side is blameless and neither side is willing to seek a solution that somehow works for both parties.  So it seems for the visible future, this conflict is destined to continue.  Until the various leaders are willing to reach an accommodation, the killing will not stop.  It doesn't help that as a country, we don't take a stronger position on this.  Enough said.  At least the Ukrainians have a more honest cause.

Disagree. I’ll just leave it at that.

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Without wading into the conflict itself, how does a University police itself so everyone feels safe, if students can't exercise civility and self-control? Are students at Stanford and elsewhere really going to take up arms, or is it talk? Do they understand that other people might fight back physically too?  I was in college a decade after the Vietnam era and divestment from South Africa was the thing in my day. That was really students v. trustees and it wasn't violent that I recall. Sashes at graduation. This is student on student. So sad that people fear for their own safety and some may be compelled to leave and find quieter campuses elsewhere to resume their studies.

Where do they all find time for this?  I didn't even have time to sleep when I was in school, much less protest.

You need to look at the current Stanford curriculum.

[TonyLima]

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Theo Baker, whom many will remember as the young man whose investigative journalism uncovered the MTL fiasco last year, has written an article for The Atlantic about the extremely contentious activism on campus surrounding the Gaza situation.  I didn't know that Theo's ancestry was Jewish, and that provides a very interesting perspective.

It's theoretically behind a paywall, but I was able to open it signing in with my Google account.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archiv...as/677864/

Mods, I know this is "political,"  but I am submitting this because I, most likely like many members of the external Stanford community, was not fully aware of the depth of the turmoil on campus, and the quandary that the administration finds itself in.  I hope this does not morph into negativity.  Feel free to delete if you feel otherwise.

also appears to be here 

https://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog...nford.html

82, I didn't do a paragraph-by-paragraph comparison, but the article you linked seems to have truncated Theo's Atlantic article slightly.  Here's the part the taxprof article left off at the end:

At January’s anti-anti-Semitism event, I watched an exchange between a Jewish attendee and a protester from a few feet away. “Are you pro-Palestine?” the protester asked.


“Yes,” the attendee responded, and he went on to describe his disgust with the human-rights abuses Palestinians have faced for years.

“But are you a Zionist?”

“Yes.”

“Then we are enemies.”

Neither side is blameless and neither side is willing to seek a solution that somehow works for both parties.  So it seems for the visible future, this conflict is destined to continue.  Until the various leaders are willing to reach an accommodation, the killing will not stop.  It doesn't help that as a country, we don't take a stronger position on this.  Enough said.  At least the Ukrainians have a more honest cause.

Disagree. I’ll just leave it at that.

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Without wading into the conflict itself, how does a University police itself so everyone feels safe, if students can't exercise civility and self-control? Are students at Stanford and elsewhere really going to take up arms, or is it talk? Do they understand that other people might fight back physically too?  I was in college a decade after the Vietnam era and divestment from South Africa was the thing in my day. That was really students v. trustees and it wasn't violent that I recall. Sashes at graduation. This is student on student. So sad that people fear for their own safety and some may be compelled to leave and find quieter campuses elsewhere to resume their studies.

Where do they all find time for this?  I didn't even have time to sleep when I was in school, much less protest.

You need to look at the current Stanford curriculum.