09-21-2024, 10:18 AM
(09-21-2024, 09:34 AM)terry Wrote:(09-20-2024, 04:59 PM)Mick Wrote: I think everyone knows that Bobby Cox has been ejected from the most MLB games as manager. Do you know who are second and third?
Also, who are the three that were ejected from the highest percentage of the games that they managed?
Hint for #1: Nickname was "Bad Bill." As a player he was (at the time) 2nd in career walks, 5th in ABs, top 10 in RBIs, top seven in hits, runs, triples, total bases. As a fielder, led the league in assists four times, DPs three times, and owned the MLB records for putouts, assists, total chances, DPs (he still holds the record for total chances). Held the consecutive game hitting streak when he retired, still the longest by a right-handed NL player. Finished top five in defensive WAR ten different seasons. At his retirement, he was in the Top 15 for career home runs and top ten for career stolen bases. He is not in the Hall of Fame, but has been considered by six separate committees. In fairness, SABR considers him the most overlooked 19th century baseball legend. Played for both the Giants and Dodgers at one time.
Hint for #2: Nickname was "Old Rant 'n Rave." Managed 12 seasons mainly the 1950s, a few seasons in the early 60s, and (unaccountably) one season in 1976, where his team finished last in the division (and he wasn't ejected, not even once). None of his teams ever finished higher than 3rd, but he was an innovator. He was the first to calculate on base percentage, the first manager to enforce pitch counts for young arms and invented the of immense proportions catcher's mitt for knuckleball pitchers. Famous for resurrecting pitcher careers. An ump said he had the "foulest mouth in MLB" but he taught Sunday school at a Baptist church. He was a habitual cheater, in baseball and in golf. Also GM, and engineered the largest trade in MLB history, 17 players, creating the foundation of a team that would become one of the winningest in baseball. 16 of his players became MLB managers. Both Earl Weaver and Bobby Cox were disciples of his. Played for both the Giants and Dodgers at one time.
Hint for #3: Current manager. Has managed for six years. Had one second place finish, two third place finishes and three fourth place finishes. Decent hitter, solid fielder, never led the league in anything except putouts and double plays in one year. His grandfather played in MLB and they jointly hold the distinction of the only grandfather/grandson to have hit for the cycle in MLB. Never played for the Dodgers, but did play for the Giants and had a memorable playoff moment for them and won the Willie McCovey award.
I have no idea about the answer, but I enjoyed reading the question!
Thanks, Terry. Cox, John McGraw and Leo Durocher are #s 1-3. Bochy is #7, Melvin is #13.
My friend Phogge emailed me with the right answer for #3, David Bell. Played for the Giants one year, and hit the home run that put them into the 2002 NLCS by scoring the winning run in Game 5 against the Cardinals. Bell is managing the Reds, currently in fourth place in their division.
#1 was "Bad Bill" Dahlen, ejected 65 times as player and manager. Terrific player, overlooked and underrated, great baseball acumen. His four year managerial record was below .500. Managed by/inspired by Cap Anson and John McGraw. McGraw was #2 in total ejections, BTW. Allegations of domestic violence, undisciplined player, carouser. Played for the Giants for four years, then traded to the Superbas/Dodgers.
Dahlen's JAWS rating is 11th in MLB, highest among non-HoFers. 19 shortstops in the Hall of Fame are behind Dahlen's JAWS figure.
#2 was Paul Richards. Richards was forward thinking, developing Brooks Robinson, Joe Morgan, Nellie Fox, Minnie Minoso, Rusty Staub and Billy Pierce among others. Richards caught Carl Hubbell, and said Hubbell taught Richard the importance of off-speed. He was managed by nice guy Bill Terry. He was also managed by Connie Mack, and he clashed with Mack over the use of pitchers. He coached Steve O'Neill and Hal Newhouser into consecutive MVP seasons.
Richards took over the Orioles the year after they left St. Louis (as the Browns). He traded their only star, Bob Turley, for young talent. Six years later, the Orioles went above .500 for the first time. Earl Weaver and Cal Ripken Sr. were his disciples, and he managed young stars Jim Gentile, Milt Pappas, Steve Barber and vet Hoyt Wilhelm. They challenged the Yankees for 1st place. Richards later became GM for Houston, signing Morgan, Staub, Larry Dierker, Cuellar, John Mayberry, Jimmy Winn and Dave Giusti.
Richards was fired by the club's co-owner, Judge Roy Hofheinz. A sympathetic reporter, Mickey Herskowitz told him, "Paul, the Judge is his own worst enemy." Richards replied "Not while I'm alive." He managed the single season in 1976 when Bill Veeck bought the White Sox. Veeck said Richards would get the most out of bad players, but Richards basically had retired in place by then.
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