[Mick]

Not really a trivia question, just wanted to get your personal opinions in the wake of Pete Rose's recent demise. Pete was given the nickname "Charley Hustle", a nickname that coaches and broadcasters used reverently, but when Mickey Mantle assigned that particular nickname, he meant it derisively.

If you put  personalities aside, and concentrate solely on baseball skills, let's say you own or are GM of a team, and you can pick just one of them to start the team, which one do you pick?

For Rose: played in almost 50% more games than Mantle, had 2/3rds more at bats, 1,831 more hits, scored 656 more runs, beat Mantle out in both triples (135 to 72) and doubles (746 to 344), 45 more career SBs but thrown out a far higher percentage than Mantle, slightly higher batting average (.303 to .298), struck out 557 fewer times, 3 batting titles, 2 gold gloves, 1 silver slugger. Rose more versatile, named an A-Star and played 500+ games at five positions.

For Mantle: much more powerful hitter with a higher on base percentage; 536 HRs to 160, had 167 more walks (was HBP almost 100 times fewer), .421 OBP to .375, .557 slugging % to .409, .977 OPS to .784, 172 OPS+ to 118 for Rose, and Mantle also led in WAR, 110.2 to 79.5.

Rose played 24 seasons, Mantle played 18. Mantle made 20 all star teams in 16 seasons, Rose made 17 all star teams in 17 seasons. Rose was nine years younger, and played in a more integrated sport.

So which one would you choose to start a team with?

https://stathead.com/baseball/vs/mickey-...d=rosepe01

[Mick]

Not really a trivia question, just wanted to get your personal opinions in the wake of Pete Rose's recent demise. Pete was given the nickname "Charley Hustle", a nickname that coaches and broadcasters used reverently, but when Mickey Mantle assigned that particular nickname, he meant it derisively.

If you put  personalities aside, and concentrate solely on baseball skills, let's say you own or are GM of a team, and you can pick just one of them to start the team, which one do you pick?

For Rose: played in almost 50% more games than Mantle, had 2/3rds more at bats, 1,831 more hits, scored 656 more runs, beat Mantle out in both triples (135 to 72) and doubles (746 to 344), 45 more career SBs but thrown out a far higher percentage than Mantle, slightly higher batting average (.303 to .298), struck out 557 fewer times, 3 batting titles, 2 gold gloves, 1 silver slugger. Rose more versatile, named an A-Star and played 500+ games at five positions.

For Mantle: much more powerful hitter with a higher on base percentage; 536 HRs to 160, had 167 more walks (was HBP almost 100 times fewer), .421 OBP to .375, .557 slugging % to .409, .977 OPS to .784, 172 OPS+ to 118 for Rose, and Mantle also led in WAR, 110.2 to 79.5.

Rose played 24 seasons, Mantle played 18. Mantle made 20 all star teams in 16 seasons, Rose made 17 all star teams in 17 seasons. Rose was nine years younger, and played in a more integrated sport.

So which one would you choose to start a team with?

https://stathead.com/baseball/vs/mickey-...d=rosepe01