12-18-2024, 11:32 AM
Good points. It is a better way of measuring experience than just by class (which gets very confusing with players that played for 6 years in college). In these days of so many transfers, one team may lose all its seniors while another team is all grad students.
I think looking at career playing time rather than starts would be a finer-grained measure. That would differentiate Ogden vs Green. (Btw, in the Roster section of GoStanford.com, you can click on the player, and then Stats on the left to get their career numbers. Ogden has played 538 minutes in 42 games, with no starts. Green has played 73 minutes in 30 games, with no starts.)
It can't be helped, but this measure (either starts or minutes) conflates experience and talent. Talented players are more likely to get starts and time. It also can obscure talent (suppose you have 4 talented guards and one so-so post). Injuries also figure into the starting & time figures. A player that missed a half year due to injury will properly show up as less experienced.
I think you have to include the record at other schools or else some teams could be all grad students with zero total starts at their current school. There is a bonus for playing time under the current coach/system, but there is a benefit for playing at college level elsewhere.
A set of stats to consider would be
Career starts; Career games; Career minutes; Career min/gm;
School career starts; School career games; School career minutes; School career min/gm.
Season starts; Season games; Season minutes; Season min/gm
When you get into post-season, the players' post-season experience matters as well.
A "rebuilding" year is a year in which you bank experience to be drawn upon in the future.
Thanks for sharing!
It's interesting to see some support for Leopolo here for a change. As I said before, I was less concerned than most about her being a play-maker than a shooter, but in this offense, I fear she would be too deliberate and slow it down.
Even if she doesn't play another game this year, wouldn't she be the player with the most career starts (70) at the end of the year?
Nope.. Heal has more starts with 66 at Santa Clara (but, IMO, she doesn't play like she's that experienced).
I certainly understand why Stanford WBB scheduled an easier slate than in recent years, but I'm not sure why MBB did. Each team just had a little known opponent show up with a better team that one might have expected when the schedules were conceived. Fortunately, Stanford won both games.
I think looking at career playing time rather than starts would be a finer-grained measure. That would differentiate Ogden vs Green. (Btw, in the Roster section of GoStanford.com, you can click on the player, and then Stats on the left to get their career numbers. Ogden has played 538 minutes in 42 games, with no starts. Green has played 73 minutes in 30 games, with no starts.)
It can't be helped, but this measure (either starts or minutes) conflates experience and talent. Talented players are more likely to get starts and time. It also can obscure talent (suppose you have 4 talented guards and one so-so post). Injuries also figure into the starting & time figures. A player that missed a half year due to injury will properly show up as less experienced.
I think you have to include the record at other schools or else some teams could be all grad students with zero total starts at their current school. There is a bonus for playing time under the current coach/system, but there is a benefit for playing at college level elsewhere.
A set of stats to consider would be
Career starts; Career games; Career minutes; Career min/gm;
School career starts; School career games; School career minutes; School career min/gm.
Season starts; Season games; Season minutes; Season min/gm
When you get into post-season, the players' post-season experience matters as well.
A "rebuilding" year is a year in which you bank experience to be drawn upon in the future.
(12-16-2024, 03:54 PM)81alum Wrote: I'm feeling more and more "done" with analyzing this team.That's the thing about an active mind... It keeps going and going.
Thanks for sharing!
It's interesting to see some support for Leopolo here for a change. As I said before, I was less concerned than most about her being a play-maker than a shooter, but in this offense, I fear she would be too deliberate and slow it down.
Even if she doesn't play another game this year, wouldn't she be the player with the most career starts (70) at the end of the year?
Nope.. Heal has more starts with 66 at Santa Clara (but, IMO, she doesn't play like she's that experienced).
I certainly understand why Stanford WBB scheduled an easier slate than in recent years, but I'm not sure why MBB did. Each team just had a little known opponent show up with a better team that one might have expected when the schedules were conceived. Fortunately, Stanford won both games.