[BostonCard]

(3) NotreDame in Football & Duke in Mens Basketball have already shown that you dont have to 'entirely 100% forsake your values' to be successful.

Which values are you referring to?

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/...violations
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/...-football/
https://www.ktbs.com/news/incaseyoumisse...ae1ba.html
https://fightingirish.com/ncaa-slaps-not...probation/

BTW, I am not claiming that we are holier than thou; after all Stanford was hit with violations a few years ago (https://stanforddaily.com/2016/09/15/sta...-softball/)

But as the article from Chris Smith notes, even if you agree that Notre Dame does things “the right way”, it “tends to mask the fact that college football, regardless of where it's played, is all about business.”

When you point to Notre Dame and Duke, you are pointing to two academically well respected institutions who also have winning athletic programs (in football and basketball, respectively) but the two things are almost no more connected than the fact that the Bay Area has successful academic universities (Stanford, Cal) and successful major athletic programs (the Giants, Warriors, and Niners). That’s a bit of hyperbole, but that is clearly the direction of travel, and if I sound like a negative Nellie all the time, it is because I don’t like the destination.  I don’t really care for an NCAA where you have students and athletes but not student-athletes.

BC

[BostonCard]

(3) NotreDame in Football & Duke in Mens Basketball have already shown that you dont have to 'entirely 100% forsake your values' to be successful.

Which values are you referring to?

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/...violations
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/...-football/
https://www.ktbs.com/news/incaseyoumisse...ae1ba.html
https://fightingirish.com/ncaa-slaps-not...probation/

BTW, I am not claiming that we are holier than thou; after all Stanford was hit with violations a few years ago (https://stanforddaily.com/2016/09/15/sta...-softball/)

But as the article from Chris Smith notes, even if you agree that Notre Dame does things “the right way”, it “tends to mask the fact that college football, regardless of where it's played, is all about business.”

When you point to Notre Dame and Duke, you are pointing to two academically well respected institutions who also have winning athletic programs (in football and basketball, respectively) but the two things are almost no more connected than the fact that the Bay Area has successful academic universities (Stanford, Cal) and successful major athletic programs (the Giants, Warriors, and Niners). That’s a bit of hyperbole, but that is clearly the direction of travel, and if I sound like a negative Nellie all the time, it is because I don’t like the destination.  I don’t really care for an NCAA where you have students and athletes but not student-athletes.

BC