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Additionally am curious on whether you all care if the football players, once enrolled, engage at all in the classroom or just mail it in. If they're barely scraping by ("I didn't come here to play school") is that okay? Interested to hear thoughts.

I may be in the minority here, but yes, I care that the athletes are actually students that are indeed trying to get an education. After all, that is what universities are for. If a player that has no intention of being a "student" occupies a slot that could be occupied by somebody who is a student then the university is deviating from its values and primary mission. One could say these aren't "real" slots for students so nobody is actually being denied an opportunity by having such individuals admitted. If that is the case, the university has no business having them at all. They by design would not be there to be educated. There presence is therefore totally outside of the University's goals. I am unimpressed with the argument that the university has other entities that are not designed to educate students. I don't identify with those entities either and if their contribution to student education can't be adequately explained, they too should be deleted.
 
IMO college athletics is  (or rather was) interesting mostly because the athletes were also students and therefore we had something in common. I could identify with them. If they are just a bunch of talented athletes hired to entertain the masses I have nothing in common with them. They aren't "our lads", they are a pro team. I do watch and follow some pro teams, but I have no emotional attachment to these teams. It is just another form of entertainment.

I was going to speak up, but you pretty much said everything that I have to say.  The following was very sad to see (in the pinned roster thread):

b. Twenty-four players who transferred or are seeking a transfer; school year denoted is for 2025 season

Even if you take out the 11 players who will be fifth or sixth year seniors and thus (hopefully) got their Stanford degrees, that still leaves 13 players leaving without graduating from the school, and that doesn’t even include “heralded freshman QB Bear Bachmeier declared for Stanford and actually enrolled, participating in part of spring ball before entering the transfer portal and transferring to BYU before his freshman year began.”

And all of this, the revolving door of players, the accepting 17 transfers, the unrecognizable roster, gets us three straight 9 loss seasons and we’ll be lucky to even get that this year.  What are we even doing here?  If we are going to be uncompetitive, we might as well maintain our educational standards.

BC

[BostonCard]

Additionally am curious on whether you all care if the football players, once enrolled, engage at all in the classroom or just mail it in. If they're barely scraping by ("I didn't come here to play school") is that okay? Interested to hear thoughts.

I may be in the minority here, but yes, I care that the athletes are actually students that are indeed trying to get an education. After all, that is what universities are for. If a player that has no intention of being a "student" occupies a slot that could be occupied by somebody who is a student then the university is deviating from its values and primary mission. One could say these aren't "real" slots for students so nobody is actually being denied an opportunity by having such individuals admitted. If that is the case, the university has no business having them at all. They by design would not be there to be educated. There presence is therefore totally outside of the University's goals. I am unimpressed with the argument that the university has other entities that are not designed to educate students. I don't identify with those entities either and if their contribution to student education can't be adequately explained, they too should be deleted.
 
IMO college athletics is  (or rather was) interesting mostly because the athletes were also students and therefore we had something in common. I could identify with them. If they are just a bunch of talented athletes hired to entertain the masses I have nothing in common with them. They aren't "our lads", they are a pro team. I do watch and follow some pro teams, but I have no emotional attachment to these teams. It is just another form of entertainment.

I was going to speak up, but you pretty much said everything that I have to say.  The following was very sad to see (in the pinned roster thread):

b. Twenty-four players who transferred or are seeking a transfer; school year denoted is for 2025 season

Even if you take out the 11 players who will be fifth or sixth year seniors and thus (hopefully) got their Stanford degrees, that still leaves 13 players leaving without graduating from the school, and that doesn’t even include “heralded freshman QB Bear Bachmeier declared for Stanford and actually enrolled, participating in part of spring ball before entering the transfer portal and transferring to BYU before his freshman year began.”

And all of this, the revolving door of players, the accepting 17 transfers, the unrecognizable roster, gets us three straight 9 loss seasons and we’ll be lucky to even get that this year.  What are we even doing here?  If we are going to be uncompetitive, we might as well maintain our educational standards.

BC