(10-05-2026, 09:41 AM)msqueri Wrote: Does anyone look at the evidence and think Stanford has a snowball's chance in hell in 2027 or 2028 without 15+ transfers annually (conservatively)?
Given where we are personnel-wise at the moment, no.
Quote: When I say more transfers, I am not talking about more than six and trying to make sure that a good QB and OT are in the group. It seems to me, from the evidence, that there is no choice but to significantly turn over the roster every year with both high school recruiting and a transfer cohorts closer to 20 or more. Stanford people don't like to think about "running off" players before their degree completion, but this doesn't work without like 35+ new players a year (between high school and transfers) until the roster is healthy and competitive. Right?
It is interesting to look at the number of transfers into teams that are below top 40 (as Stanford is now). As an example, University of Colorado (CBS #74) had 42 in and 36 out. University of Washington (CBS #43) had 24 out and 14 in. Arizona State (CBS #46) had 25 in and 22 out. Hawaii (CBS #99) had 18 in and 9 out. Even UNLV (CBS #101) has 11 incoming transfers and 14 outgoing transfers. Cal (CBS #71) added 32 transfers, but lost 35 to the portal. Washington State (CBS #98) had 28 incoming transfers and 37 outgoing transfers. These two schools were changing coaches, so that undoubtedly influenced the numbers higher.The point here is that a large number of incoming transfers does not guarantee a "good" team, or even an improving one. I think Msqueri makes a good argument that an almost cart blanche approach to transfers in may be necessary to be a "top 40" team, but it quite clearly isn't sufficient.
Relying on transfers to fulfill critical roles on the team creates a need to replace said transfer fairly quickly. Stanford may very well need another transfer QB for next year. Further, transfers out may create "holes" that are unanticipated. This is especially true on teams that aren't very good. If they do have a few good players that have shown promise other more successful programs may lure said players away with the opportunity to showcase their talents on a bigger stage. More cash helps, but it far from the only inducement. Lastly, there may be positions where all the "home grown" recruits just aren't good enough. These "busts" too then need to be addressed in the transfer portal. This situation can easily lead to a monotonically increasing need for more transfers year over year. Teams that aren't good can get stuck there, losing their few good players to the portal while constantly attempting to plug holes each year.
I absolutely agree that Stanford's current roster creates a massive problem for the coaching staff. Assume we put aside the repugnance of "running off" players. Further assume we put aside any academic qualification requirements to accept a transfer. Why would a "proven" college player that is currently starting (or expects to start "soon") leave his current employer? The player knows that Stanford isn't doing what OSU did, replace everybody. He knows he is going to be on a team that isn't very good. He really doesn't care that Stanford is "committed" to being much better after two more draft transfer classes. He won't be there by then. He also knows that almost nobody on campus cares who he is or what he has done. He also knows he is going to have to at least pay lip service to attending some classes. I would argue that no matter how much money Stanford offers, most guys will reject it out of hand. It makes no sense for them.
Clearly, Stanford will be picking through guys that were recruited over, guys with an injury history, guys that weren't starters etc. That is not to say there aren't good players that Stanford can find in the portal. Warren is an example. He is a 6th year with no prospects where he was. Stanford made good sense for him. However, he is yet another "one and done". It is awfully difficult to build up a team when you have to replace not 1/4 of your players each year, but rather closer to 1/2. This applies to every team in college football today. That makes retention of your good players even more important. That also makes the ability to attract good players from elsewhere even more important. If you are not already a "good" team already, doing these things is extremely difficult. It is even more difficult at Stanford.
I have no solution to this problem. I don't want to see players "run off". I am quite certain the University isn't going to remove any semblance of an academically balanced admissions process for transfers. However, even if they did, we will have a very difficult task reaching reliable mediocrity. Indeed, the game has changed.
