[Viking_Guy]

The other issue, I think, is that all of the offenses under discussion - motion, pick and roll and triangle - utterly depend on having at least a third scoring option out on the floor. Absent that, you get what Stanford did to Cal in both games with respect to Eliza Pierre - an extra player or two standing and waiting in the lane to help on the base of the triangle, to defend the drive in either motion or off the pick, and to set themselves as a secondary defender to contest and draw charges against any inside moves.

That's why with Ruef not much of an offensive threat, and Tinkle not presenting much of one either, you get sclerotic offense - you have two defenders who only have to maintain slight contact with their mark, and feel free to drift and help against Chiney inside, or Amber coming off the curl, or Toni on the drive.

VG

[Viking_Guy]

The other issue, I think, is that all of the offenses under discussion - motion, pick and roll and triangle - utterly depend on having at least a third scoring option out on the floor. Absent that, you get what Stanford did to Cal in both games with respect to Eliza Pierre - an extra player or two standing and waiting in the lane to help on the base of the triangle, to defend the drive in either motion or off the pick, and to set themselves as a secondary defender to contest and draw charges against any inside moves.

That's why with Ruef not much of an offensive threat, and Tinkle not presenting much of one either, you get sclerotic offense - you have two defenders who only have to maintain slight contact with their mark, and feel free to drift and help against Chiney inside, or Amber coming off the curl, or Toni on the drive.

VG