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I don't know what Penn does nowadays. Back in my day (late 70's), the Penn financial aid office kept track of athletic status. While I was sitting for an extended time at a financial aid officer's desk waiting to find out that I would be getting a substantial upgrade to my financial aid package due to  the generosity of a recently deceased alum, I saw a series of slips delivered to the desk with the annotations "Athletic 1" and "Athletic 2". Seemed odd given that there were no athletic scholarships. Some time later, I asked a dean about that. The story was that athletic classification affected the type of financial aid (i.e. mix of grant, loan and work-study). I wasn't in a position to inquire too closely, given that I had my own financial aid more than doubled and converted to all grant because of academic performance, something that officially also did not happen.

Since I don't know the player in OC, I have no idea whether Stanford or Penn would be a better school for him. Penn is a much better place to go to school than some folks here seem to think. Yes, at times the weather is fierce. It can be bitter cold and windy in February. I remember slowly working my way between the high rise dorms leaning into the wind at almost a 45 degree angle. I became quite expert at one-handed umbrella handling in swirling wind. But most of the time the weather is not like that. Philadelphia is a great city for walking around. As much as I enjoyed Stanford, I preferred the urban environment of Philadelphia to the isolation of 8,400 acres. Of course, that may just be because undergraduate is more fun than law school, wherever you are.

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I don't know what Penn does nowadays. Back in my day (late 70's), the Penn financial aid office kept track of athletic status. While I was sitting for an extended time at a financial aid officer's desk waiting to find out that I would be getting a substantial upgrade to my financial aid package due to  the generosity of a recently deceased alum, I saw a series of slips delivered to the desk with the annotations "Athletic 1" and "Athletic 2". Seemed odd given that there were no athletic scholarships. Some time later, I asked a dean about that. The story was that athletic classification affected the type of financial aid (i.e. mix of grant, loan and work-study). I wasn't in a position to inquire too closely, given that I had my own financial aid more than doubled and converted to all grant because of academic performance, something that officially also did not happen.

Since I don't know the player in OC, I have no idea whether Stanford or Penn would be a better school for him. Penn is a much better place to go to school than some folks here seem to think. Yes, at times the weather is fierce. It can be bitter cold and windy in February. I remember slowly working my way between the high rise dorms leaning into the wind at almost a 45 degree angle. I became quite expert at one-handed umbrella handling in swirling wind. But most of the time the weather is not like that. Philadelphia is a great city for walking around. As much as I enjoyed Stanford, I preferred the urban environment of Philadelphia to the isolation of 8,400 acres. Of course, that may just be because undergraduate is more fun than law school, wherever you are.