[Leftcoast]

As a member of the so-called Anti-Dawkins camp let me put a different spin on this.  We are not anti-Dawkins, we are pro Stanford basketball. 

The messages above suggesting that Dawkins has really done OK over the past three years show an acceptance of mediocrity, a dumbing down of Stanford's standards. 

In the 15 years before Dawkins came to Stanford, Montgomery and Johnson took Stanford to 13 NCAA tournaments and Stanford placed in the top half of the PAC 10 in each of the 15 years.  Under Dawkins we have made one NCAA in six years and finished in the top half of the Pac  twice (once as #6). 

More than that, Stanford went from being a perennial top 10 team under Montgomery and a team that was frequently listed as an emerging member of the basketball elite to one of the vast unwashed second tier teams that occasionally make some noise.  Maples went from a must-have ticket among Cardinal faithful and students to a sleepy gym and so-so ticket.

I think Dawkins recruits well enough to turn this around but don't fool yourself - A turn around is required.  Fans who have been around a while and had Maples tickets under Montgomery had a front row seat from which to watch as the program descended.  I celebrate last year as a small step toward relevance not as a return to the program's previous glory.

Holding the program to its previous standard isn't anti-Dawkins, it is pro-Stanford. 

1993–94 Mike Montgomery 17–11 10–8 NIT First Round
1994–95 Mike Montgomery 20–9 10–8 NCAA Second Round
1995–96 Mike Montgomery 21–8 12–6 NCAA Second Round
1996–97 Mike Montgomery 22–8 12–6 NCAA Sweet Sixteen
1997–98 Mike Montgomery 30–5 15–3 NCAA Final Four
1998–99 Mike Montgomery 26–7 15–3 NCAA Second Round
1999–00 Mike Montgomery 27–4 15–3 NCAA Second Round
2000–01 Mike Montgomery 31–3 16–2 NCAA Elite Eight
2001–02 Mike Montgomery 20–10 12–6 NCAA Second Round
2002–03 Mike Montgomery 24–9 14–4 NCAA Second Round
2003–04 Mike Montgomery 30–2 17–1 NCAA Second Round

2004–05 Trent Johnson 18–13 11–7 NCAA First Round
2005–06 Trent Johnson 16–14 11–7 NIT Second Round
2006–07 Trent Johnson 18–13 10–8 NCAA First Round
2007–08 Trent Johnson 28–8        13–5 NCAA Sweet Sixteen 
   

[Leftcoast]

As a member of the so-called Anti-Dawkins camp let me put a different spin on this.  We are not anti-Dawkins, we are pro Stanford basketball. 

The messages above suggesting that Dawkins has really done OK over the past three years show an acceptance of mediocrity, a dumbing down of Stanford's standards. 

In the 15 years before Dawkins came to Stanford, Montgomery and Johnson took Stanford to 13 NCAA tournaments and Stanford placed in the top half of the PAC 10 in each of the 15 years.  Under Dawkins we have made one NCAA in six years and finished in the top half of the Pac  twice (once as #6). 

More than that, Stanford went from being a perennial top 10 team under Montgomery and a team that was frequently listed as an emerging member of the basketball elite to one of the vast unwashed second tier teams that occasionally make some noise.  Maples went from a must-have ticket among Cardinal faithful and students to a sleepy gym and so-so ticket.

I think Dawkins recruits well enough to turn this around but don't fool yourself - A turn around is required.  Fans who have been around a while and had Maples tickets under Montgomery had a front row seat from which to watch as the program descended.  I celebrate last year as a small step toward relevance not as a return to the program's previous glory.

Holding the program to its previous standard isn't anti-Dawkins, it is pro-Stanford. 

1993–94 Mike Montgomery 17–11 10–8 NIT First Round
1994–95 Mike Montgomery 20–9 10–8 NCAA Second Round
1995–96 Mike Montgomery 21–8 12–6 NCAA Second Round
1996–97 Mike Montgomery 22–8 12–6 NCAA Sweet Sixteen
1997–98 Mike Montgomery 30–5 15–3 NCAA Final Four
1998–99 Mike Montgomery 26–7 15–3 NCAA Second Round
1999–00 Mike Montgomery 27–4 15–3 NCAA Second Round
2000–01 Mike Montgomery 31–3 16–2 NCAA Elite Eight
2001–02 Mike Montgomery 20–10 12–6 NCAA Second Round
2002–03 Mike Montgomery 24–9 14–4 NCAA Second Round
2003–04 Mike Montgomery 30–2 17–1 NCAA Second Round

2004–05 Trent Johnson 18–13 11–7 NCAA First Round
2005–06 Trent Johnson 16–14 11–7 NIT Second Round
2006–07 Trent Johnson 18–13 10–8 NCAA First Round
2007–08 Trent Johnson 28–8        13–5 NCAA Sweet Sixteen