[Mick]

If Harris were a good coach who was just tricked by Ted Leland, don't you think somebody else would have picked him up? He had a year as a position coach at Akron, another year doing the same at 59er U of Pennsylvania, and now appears to be out of coaching.

So he's a bad coach who went to six bowl games in eight years in a major conference?  What does that make Bill Walsh who went to three bowls in five years?  Walsh was league coach of the year once, Harris was coach of the year twice.  Both coaches reached high PA rankings; Walsh hit #8, Harris hit #9. 

I'm not saying Harris was a great coach for Stanford, clearly he wasn't.  I met him shortly after he accepted the job, he struck me as being a first class d-bag, no question.  But I don't think I would flat out say he was a bad coach overall.  He was a bad coach for us.

[Mick]

If Harris were a good coach who was just tricked by Ted Leland, don't you think somebody else would have picked him up? He had a year as a position coach at Akron, another year doing the same at 59er U of Pennsylvania, and now appears to be out of coaching.

So he's a bad coach who went to six bowl games in eight years in a major conference?  What does that make Bill Walsh who went to three bowls in five years?  Walsh was league coach of the year once, Harris was coach of the year twice.  Both coaches reached high PA rankings; Walsh hit #8, Harris hit #9. 

I'm not saying Harris was a great coach for Stanford, clearly he wasn't.  I met him shortly after he accepted the job, he struck me as being a first class d-bag, no question.  But I don't think I would flat out say he was a bad coach overall.  He was a bad coach for us.