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09-14-2020, 03:01 PM
(09-13-2020, 08:17 AM)lex24 Wrote:  Back to football - it will be interesting to see TV ratings. I predict records will be broken.

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Sunday afternoon national game on Fox up (highest Week 1 NFL overnight since the same window in 2016)

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09-15-2020, 12:16 PM
Based upon the first week of play, do you think this will strengthen the argument to reduce or eliminate preseason games in the future?
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09-15-2020, 01:03 PM
(09-15-2020, 12:16 PM)Maple Leaf Wrote:  Based upon the first week of play, do you think this will strengthen the argument to reduce or eliminate preseason games in the future?

Strengthen.  

The caliber of play in the games I watched (KC game; 49ers; and Rams) was pretty/surprisingly good.
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09-15-2020, 02:20 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-15-2020, 02:49 PM by cardcrimson.)
(09-15-2020, 01:03 PM)teejers1 Wrote:  
(09-15-2020, 12:16 PM)Maple Leaf Wrote:  Based upon the first week of play, do you think this will strengthen the argument to reduce or eliminate preseason games in the future?

Strengthen.  

The caliber of play in the games I watched (KC game; 49ers; and Rams) was pretty/surprisingly good.

You must have missed the tread on Garoppolo. . . .

Or this take from NBC Bay Area


“For some reason, I don’t know what that is; it’s gonna be up to the Niners to find out why didn’t we show up. Yeah, I understand, no preseason games. Now all of the sudden, you’re playing a regular-season game. The game goes to a who different level. I just feel like the Niners, they should have been ready to go ... a home game against a rival ... It was an important game. I was really disappointed in the execution of the Niners, and I just felt like they weren’t where they needed to be.”

--Jerry Rice

Randy Cross was equally pointed this morning of KNBR. . . .

oops meant thread, but actually, tread seems more appropriate. . . .

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09-15-2020, 02:57 PM
(09-15-2020, 02:20 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:  
(09-15-2020, 01:03 PM)teejers1 Wrote:  
(09-15-2020, 12:16 PM)Maple Leaf Wrote:  Based upon the first week of play, do you think this will strengthen the argument to reduce or eliminate preseason games in the future?

Strengthen.  

The caliber of play in the games I watched (KC game; 49ers; and Rams) was pretty/surprisingly good.

You must have missed the tread on Garoppolo. . . .

Or this take from NBC Bay Area


“For some reason, I don’t know what that is; it’s gonna be up to the Niners to find out why didn’t we show up. Yeah, I understand, no preseason games. Now all of the sudden, you’re playing a regular-season game. The game goes to a who different level. I just feel like the Niners, they should have been ready to go ... a home game against a rival ... It was an important game. I was really disappointed in the execution of the Niners, and I just felt like they weren’t where they needed to be.”

--Jerry Rice

Randy Cross was equally pointed this morning of KNBR. . . .

oops meant thread, but actually, tread seems more appropriate. . . .

The 'Niner D was, by and large, excellent.  It's very hard to contain Murray, particularly when you're on the field for a majority of the plays (and when other side is running hurry up).  They had one notable breakdown on the last TD; but that happens from time to time (see killer 3rd and 15 completion in SB last year).

On O, Jimmy G. missed some passes.  But I don't know why anyone would think that playing pre-season games would have fixed that.  The guy has missed a lot of important passes in his 'Niner career.  Again, in SB, with all those season games under his belt, he had his 2nd and 5 pass deflected at LOS (pump fake or look away, anyone?) and he overthrew the long ball which could have been a TD.  Thus, the two bad passes on the last drive are not totally unexpected and not attributable to lack of pre-season games.  At least from this angle.

Also, generally speaking, veteran teams do not benefit too much from preseason games.  The 'Niner players have a lot of experience not many rookie starters . . . are there?
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09-15-2020, 08:54 PM
(09-15-2020, 02:57 PM)teejers1 Wrote:  
(09-15-2020, 02:20 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:  
(09-15-2020, 01:03 PM)teejers1 Wrote:  
(09-15-2020, 12:16 PM)Maple Leaf Wrote:  Based upon the first week of play, do you think this will strengthen the argument to reduce or eliminate preseason games in the future?

Strengthen.  

The caliber of play in the games I watched (KC game; 49ers; and Rams) was pretty/surprisingly good.

You must have missed the tread on Garoppolo. . . .

Or this take from NBC Bay Area


“For some reason, I don’t know what that is; it’s gonna be up to the Niners to find out why didn’t we show up. Yeah, I understand, no preseason games. Now all of the sudden, you’re playing a regular-season game. The game goes to a who different level. I just feel like the Niners, they should have been ready to go ... a home game against a rival ... It was an important game. I was really disappointed in the execution of the Niners, and I just felt like they weren’t where they needed to be.”

--Jerry Rice

Randy Cross was equally pointed this morning of KNBR. . . .

oops meant thread, but actually, tread seems more appropriate. . . .

The 'Niner D was, by and large, excellent.  It's very hard to contain Murray, particularly when you're on the field for a majority of the plays (and when other side is running hurry up).  They had one notable breakdown on the last TD; but that happens from time to time (see killer 3rd and 15 completion in SB last year).

On O, Jimmy G. missed some passes.  But I don't know why anyone would think that playing pre-season games would have fixed that.  The guy has missed a lot of important passes in his 'Niner career.  Again, in SB, with all those season games under his belt, he had his 2nd and 5 pass deflected at LOS (pump fake or look away, anyone?) and he overthrew the long ball which could have been a TD.  Thus, the two bad passes on the last drive are not totally unexpected and not attributable to lack of pre-season games.  At least from this angle.

Also, generally speaking, veteran teams do not benefit too much from preseason games.  The 'Niner players have a lot of experience not many rookie starters . . . are there?

Excellent? They gave up 400+ yards to a mediocre offense, and what 14 catches and 100+ yards to a new receiver? Far from excellent. Per two guys with a lot of rings, the team was not prepared. Exhibition games may have helped, but regardless, they were extremely disappointing and ill prepared for a regular season game against a divisional rival.

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09-15-2020, 09:33 PM
(09-15-2020, 08:54 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:  
(09-15-2020, 02:57 PM)teejers1 Wrote:  
(09-15-2020, 02:20 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:  
(09-15-2020, 01:03 PM)teejers1 Wrote:  
(09-15-2020, 12:16 PM)Maple Leaf Wrote:  Based upon the first week of play, do you think this will strengthen the argument to reduce or eliminate preseason games in the future?

Strengthen.  

The caliber of play in the games I watched (KC game; 49ers; and Rams) was pretty/surprisingly good.

You must have missed the tread on Garoppolo. . . .

Or this take from NBC Bay Area


“For some reason, I don’t know what that is; it’s gonna be up to the Niners to find out why didn’t we show up. Yeah, I understand, no preseason games. Now all of the sudden, you’re playing a regular-season game. The game goes to a who different level. I just feel like the Niners, they should have been ready to go ... a home game against a rival ... It was an important game. I was really disappointed in the execution of the Niners, and I just felt like they weren’t where they needed to be.”

--Jerry Rice

Randy Cross was equally pointed this morning of KNBR. . . .

oops meant thread, but actually, tread seems more appropriate. . . .

The 'Niner D was, by and large, excellent.  It's very hard to contain Murray, particularly when you're on the field for a majority of the plays (and when other side is running hurry up).  They had one notable breakdown on the last TD; but that happens from time to time (see killer 3rd and 15 completion in SB last year).

On O, Jimmy G. missed some passes.  But I don't know why anyone would think that playing pre-season games would have fixed that.  The guy has missed a lot of important passes in his 'Niner career.  Again, in SB, with all those season games under his belt, he had his 2nd and 5 pass deflected at LOS (pump fake or look away, anyone?) and he overthrew the long ball which could have been a TD.  Thus, the two bad passes on the last drive are not totally unexpected and not attributable to lack of pre-season games.  At least from this angle.

Also, generally speaking, veteran teams do not benefit too much from preseason games.  The 'Niner players have a lot of experience not many rookie starters . . . are there?

Excellent? They gave up 400+ yards to a mediocre offense, and what 14 catches and 100+ yards to a new receiver? Far from excellent. Per two guys with a lot of rings, the team was not prepared. Exhibition games may have helped, but regardless, they were extremely disappointing and ill prepared for a regular season game against a divisional rival.

Defense was excellent until they wore down.   And the offense didn’t help them because they weren’t on the field very much after about the first quarter and a half. I told my buddy about halfway through the third quarter to the defense was going to have their tongues hanging on the ground by the middle of the fourth quarter. Particularly given the air quality issue. Which I’m sure didn’t help. I put the game almost completely on Garoppolo.  I thought he was lousy.  Didn’t move in the pocket, didn’t make plays, and missed an easy touchdown pass that could’ve won the game. Not to mention perhaps getting Kittle hurt for an extended period .
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09-15-2020, 10:49 PM
(09-15-2020, 09:33 PM)lex24 Wrote:  
(09-15-2020, 08:54 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:  
(09-15-2020, 02:57 PM)teejers1 Wrote:  
(09-15-2020, 02:20 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:  
(09-15-2020, 01:03 PM)teejers1 Wrote:  Strengthen.  

The caliber of play in the games I watched (KC game; 49ers; and Rams) was pretty/surprisingly good.

You must have missed the tread on Garoppolo. . . .

Or this take from NBC Bay Area


“For some reason, I don’t know what that is; it’s gonna be up to the Niners to find out why didn’t we show up. Yeah, I understand, no preseason games. Now all of the sudden, you’re playing a regular-season game. The game goes to a who different level. I just feel like the Niners, they should have been ready to go ... a home game against a rival ... It was an important game. I was really disappointed in the execution of the Niners, and I just felt like they weren’t where they needed to be.”

--Jerry Rice

Randy Cross was equally pointed this morning of KNBR. . . .

oops meant thread, but actually, tread seems more appropriate. . . .

The 'Niner D was, by and large, excellent.  It's very hard to contain Murray, particularly when you're on the field for a majority of the plays (and when other side is running hurry up).  They had one notable breakdown on the last TD; but that happens from time to time (see killer 3rd and 15 completion in SB last year).

On O, Jimmy G. missed some passes.  But I don't know why anyone would think that playing pre-season games would have fixed that.  The guy has missed a lot of important passes in his 'Niner career.  Again, in SB, with all those season games under his belt, he had his 2nd and 5 pass deflected at LOS (pump fake or look away, anyone?) and he overthrew the long ball which could have been a TD.  Thus, the two bad passes on the last drive are not totally unexpected and not attributable to lack of pre-season games.  At least from this angle.

Also, generally speaking, veteran teams do not benefit too much from preseason games.  The 'Niner players have a lot of experience not many rookie starters . . . are there?

Excellent? They gave up 400+ yards to a mediocre offense, and what 14 catches and 100+ yards to a new receiver? Far from excellent. Per two guys with a lot of rings, the team was not prepared. Exhibition games may have helped, but regardless, they were extremely disappointing and ill prepared for a regular season game against a divisional rival.

Defense was excellent until they wore down.   And the offense didn’t help them because they weren’t on the field very much after about the first quarter and a half. I told my buddy about halfway through the third quarter to the defense was going to have their tongues hanging on the ground by the middle of the fourth quarter. Particularly given the air quality issue. Which I’m sure didn’t help. I put the game almost completely on Garoppolo.  I thought he was lousy.  Didn’t move in the pocket, didn’t make plays, and missed an easy touchdown pass that could’ve won the game. Not to mention perhaps getting Kittle hurt for an extended period .

Agree completely re: Jimmy G.
But this L is on the coach (again).  AZ never should have even had the opportunity to try a FG before the end of the 1H, and that was the difference right there.
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