Roster decision thread

[SamuelMcF]

The big problem are the LB’s and the DB’s. Most of the corners can’t cover their grandmother and we know about the safeties. The injured inside guys are crystal and shouldn’t be counted on. Andres Fox looked lost when he got in and the outside is thin with the loss of the other Fox and Reid. Umeroh looked great in limited play in 2019 but never played a 2020 down I think. Huuuuge weakness going forward.

The main coverage culprit IMO has been McGill at nickel. Good in run support and a smart and crazy hard-working player. If he had P5-level athleticism he'd be an NFL prospect...unfortunately he's 5'9" and a step slow. Will eventually be a SS and at the very least do no worse than the current guy. I believe there was supposed to be more of an experiment with other guys playing nickel but injuries ruined it.

Kelly, STM, and Manley are all sophomores (STM a RS Frosh) and have 2-3 more years since eligibility is extended. Nic Toomer (who I thought would be a safety) was hurt for the season so we don't know what he can do. Ethan Bonner was the victim of some insane catches on which he was stride-for-stride with the guy, and he made some hard hits in run support...but he's the poster child for being made of glass. There are 2 freshmen waiting in the wings, 2 more coming in 2021, and I believe we want 2 more in 2022. My kingdom for another 4*.

We finally have multiple true safeties arriving in 2021, but holy crap has that situation been mismanaged to hell. I've waxed poetic about it before. (I would be saying that a little less drastically had a certain Washington State walk-on actually been here as a freshman and likely taken over NB from McGill on passing downs.)

At OLB, Umerah was injured and had surgery. Kaufusi was also out for the year. Aeneas DiCosmo moved to OLB to shore that situation up a little bit and should be practicing there moving forward. (I believe he wanted to play OLB out of high school anyways.) I agree with you about Andres Fox - no idea what happened to him given his hype. Can't finish tackles to save his life. When Gabe Reid actually played OLB in the final 2 games, he made big plays. Could come back (he's a RS Jr). Herron started rough but ended much brighter.

Damuni at ILB was a major bright spot. Excited about him. I also really really like our 2021 signee Dubre.

[Hulk01]

The big problem are the LB’s and the DB’s. Most of the corners can’t cover their grandmother and we know about the safeties. The injured inside guys are crystal and shouldn’t be counted on. Andres Fox looked lost when he got in and the outside is thin with the loss of the other Fox and Reid. Umeroh looked great in limited play in 2019 but never played a 2020 down I think. Huuuuge weakness going forward.

The main coverage culprit IMO has been McGill at nickel. Good in run support and a smart and crazy hard-working player. If he had P5-level athleticism he'd be an NFL prospect...unfortunately he's 5'9" and a step slow. Will eventually be a SS and at the very least do no worse than the current guy. I believe there was supposed to be more of an experiment with other guys playing nickel but injuries ruined it.

Kelly, STM, and Manley are all sophomores (STM a RS Frosh) and have 2-3 more years since eligibility is extended. Nic Toomer (who I thought would be a safety) was hurt for the season so we don't know what he can do. Ethan Bonner was the victim of some insane catches on which he was stride-for-stride with the guy, and he made some hard hits in run support...but he's the poster child for being made of glass. There are 2 freshmen waiting in the wings, 2 more coming in 2021, and I believe we want 2 more in 2022. My kingdom for another 4*.

We finally have multiple true safeties arriving in 2021, but holy crap has that situation been mismanaged to hell. I've waxed poetic about it before. (I would be saying that a little less drastically had a certain Washington State walk-on actually been here as a freshman and likely taken over NB from McGill on passing downs.)

At OLB, Umerah was injured and had surgery. Kaufusi was also out for the year. Aeneas DiCosmo moved to OLB to shore that situation up a little bit and should be practicing there moving forward. (I believe he wanted to play OLB out of high school anyways.) I agree with you about Andres Fox - no idea what happened to him given his hype. Can't finish tackles to save his life. When Gabe Reid actually played OLB in the final 2 games, he made big plays. Could come back (he's a RS Jr). Herron started rough but ended much brighter.

Damuni at ILB was a major bright spot. Excited about him. I also really really like our 2021 signee Dubre.

No mention of Meizan.  He seems intriguing at worse, no?

[JohnR34231]

The big problem are the LB’s and the DB’s. Most of the corners can’t cover their grandmother and we know about the safeties. The injured inside guys are crystal and shouldn’t be counted on. Andres Fox looked lost when he got in and the outside is thin with the loss of the other Fox and Reid. Umeroh looked great in limited play in 2019 but never played a 2020 down I think. Huuuuge weakness going forward.

The main coverage culprit IMO has been McGill at nickel. Good in run support and a smart and crazy hard-working player. If he had P5-level athleticism he'd be an NFL prospect...unfortunately he's 5'9" and a step slow. Will eventually be a SS and at the very least do no worse than the current guy. I believe there was supposed to be more of an experiment with other guys playing nickel but injuries ruined it.

Kelly, STM, and Manley are all sophomores (STM a RS Frosh) and have 2-3 more years since eligibility is extended. Nic Toomer (who I thought would be a safety) was hurt for the season so we don't know what he can do. Ethan Bonner was the victim of some insane catches on which he was stride-for-stride with the guy, and he made some hard hits in run support...but he's the poster child for being made of glass. There are 2 freshmen waiting in the wings, 2 more coming in 2021, and I believe we want 2 more in 2022. My kingdom for another 4*.

We finally have multiple true safeties arriving in 2021, but holy crap has that situation been mismanaged to hell. I've waxed poetic about it before. (I would be saying that a little less drastically had a certain Washington State walk-on actually been here as a freshman and likely taken over NB from McGill on passing downs.)

At OLB, Umerah was injured and had surgery. Kaufusi was also out for the year. Aeneas DiCosmo moved to OLB to shore that situation up a little bit and should be practicing there moving forward. (I believe he wanted to play OLB out of high school anyways.) I agree with you about Andres Fox - no idea what happened to him given his hype. Can't finish tackles to save his life. When Gabe Reid actually played OLB in the final 2 games, he made big plays. Could come back (he's a RS Jr). Herron started rough but ended much brighter.

Damuni at ILB was a major bright spot. Excited about him. I also really really like our 2021 signee Dubre.

No mention of Meizan.  He seems intriguing at worse, no?

Meizan is another guy who could be a big contributor if he only could stay healthy.

[SamuelMcF]

No mention of Meizan.  He seems intriguing at worse, no?

I saw some good things until he got injured for the season - AGAIN - after 38 snaps. Which was an improvement on his 28 snaps last season before season-ending injury. The way this is trending, next year he'll play well for most of a full game!

[Mick]

With Mills it depends a lot on his "current" draft position. If he is already a first round pick, no reason to wait. In fact, later first round may get him a better team than early first round, albeit less money. The challenge is of course to accurately determine what your draft position actually is. Playing next year at Stanford makes sense only if he is not a first round pick. Even then, there is the risk of injury, and with his history that could potentially torpedo getting drafted at all.

here ranks him the 16th QB

https://walterfootball.com/draft2021QB.php

Davis Mills, QB, Stanford
Height: 6-4. Weight: 214.
Projected 40 Time: 4.89.
Projected Round (2021): 6-FA.
View Ranking History

12/15/20: Mills finally got to play after missing the start of the Pac-12's season due to a COVID-19 test. He has completed over 65 percent of his passes for 1,080 yards and four scores. He also has 25 rushing yards and a rushing touchdown.

8/29/20: Mills was in and out of the lineup for Stanford in 2019, but he flashed some potential with the ability to improve as he gains experience. It will be interesting to see how Mills develops as the full-time starter.

and here

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-d...-rankings/

projects 88th pick (8th QB)

I'd love it if Mills stayed at Stanford, obviously.  But no way he falls past the second round.  If so, he will be an absolute steal for a team.

If that's the case, he should obviously go.  I just wonder whether the NFL's GMs feel that he's a 1st or 2nd rounder.  I looked at a number of media rankings, and I just don't see how a QB from the weakest of the Power 5 conferences gets selected early:

Bleacher report: Mills is not ranked in the Top Ten QBs:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2917...-nfl-draft

Sports Illustrated.  Not in the Top Five QBs:
https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/rankin...-nfl-draft

CBS.  not in the Top 11 QBs (and not in the top 150 prospects):
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/pros...rterbacks/
Also didn't make CBS's "other QBs to watch:
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2021-...-lawrence/

Steelerswire.  Not in the Top Ten:
https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/galler...yle-trask/

#16 in Walter Football.
https://walterfootball.com/draft2021QB.php

I'm struggling to understand how he gets selected in the draft at all, much less the top two rounds.  I think he should come back for another year.

[Goose]

I'm struggling to understand how he gets selected in the draft at all, much less the top two rounds.  I think he should come back for another year.

Totally agree. Hopefully whoever advises him will get "ground truth" on his chances. It only takes one team to fall in love with him. However, I believe his injury history will prevent anybody who was so inclined from "taking a flyer" on Mills. I think he probably comes back.

[needle]

With Mills it depends a lot on his "current" draft position. If he is already a first round pick, no reason to wait. In fact, later first round may get him a better team than early first round, albeit less money. The challenge is of course to accurately determine what your draft position actually is. Playing next year at Stanford makes sense only if he is not a first round pick. Even then, there is the risk of injury, and with his history that could potentially torpedo getting drafted at all.

here ranks him the 16th QB

https://walterfootball.com/draft2021QB.php

Davis Mills, QB, Stanford
Height: 6-4. Weight: 214.
Projected 40 Time: 4.89.
Projected Round (2021): 6-FA.
View Ranking History

12/15/20: Mills finally got to play after missing the start of the Pac-12's season due to a COVID-19 test. He has completed over 65 percent of his passes for 1,080 yards and four scores. He also has 25 rushing yards and a rushing touchdown.

8/29/20: Mills was in and out of the lineup for Stanford in 2019, but he flashed some potential with the ability to improve as he gains experience. It will be interesting to see how Mills develops as the full-time starter.

and here

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-d...-rankings/

projects 88th pick (8th QB)

I'd love it if Mills stayed at Stanford, obviously.  But no way he falls past the second round.  If so, he will be an absolute steal for a team.

If that's the case, he should obviously go.  I just wonder whether the NFL's GMs feel that he's a 1st or 2nd rounder.  I looked at a number of media rankings, and I just don't see how a QB from the weakest of the Power 5 conferences gets selected early:

Bleacher report: Mills is not ranked in the Top Ten QBs:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2917...-nfl-draft

Sports Illustrated.  Not in the Top Five QBs:
https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/rankin...-nfl-draft

CBS.  not in the Top 11 QBs (and not in the top 150 prospects):
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/pros...rterbacks/
Also didn't make CBS's "other QBs to watch:
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2021-...-lawrence/

Steelerswire.  Not in the Top Ten:
https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/galler...yle-trask/

#16 in Walter Football.
https://walterfootball.com/draft2021QB.php

I'm struggling to understand how he gets selected in the draft at all, much less the top two rounds.  I think he should come back for another year.

FWIW, one player grading site, Pro Football Focus, had Mills the top-rated QB in the Pac:

QUARTERBACK
First-Team: Davis Mills, Stanford
In a shocking turn of events, this first-team quarterback spot does not belong to USC's Kedon Slovis. Rather, Stanford’s Davis Mills wins out after extremely rare improvement in accuracy this season compared to last.

In fact, his accurate pass rate on throws beyond the line of scrimmage has jumped from 44% in 2019 to 65% in 2020 — the third-best rate in the FBS. That, among many other things, has helped Mills lead all Pac-12 quarterbacks in PFF grade (84.3).

https://www.pff.com/news/college-footbal...ac-12-team

[BostonCard]

Not to rag on those ratings too much, but they had Malik Antoine as a third team all conference safety.

Also, other than Drew Dalman, none of our offensive linemen are in the top 4 in their position?  Austin Jones is not one of the 8 best running backs in the conference?

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[82lsju]

in the last five drafts here are the QBs who went in round one

2020 - Burrow, Tagovailoa, Herbert, Love
2019 - Murray, Jones, Haskins
2018 - Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, Rosen, Jackson
2017 - Trubisky, Mahomes, Watson
2016 - Goff, Wentz, Lynch

so maybe five QBs go in round one, is Mills one of the top five QBs in the eyes of at least one NFL team?

[donkey687]

The prospects for our team will be determined by the decisions our players make in the next few weeks whether they are going to return.

Here are the decisions ranked in importance to next years outlook for Stanford. I assume that all 5th years don't return for a sixth year but it would certainly be a bonus if one or two of Robinson, Shaffer, Fox, Antoine returned as they play positions of need. I only list 3 juniors with decisions to make as I only view 3 of them as NFL prospects at this point (Fehoko, Wilson, Booker). The WR corp will be unit most impacted by decisons.

1) Davis Mills- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year
2) Simi Fehoko- Go Pro as a Junior or Return (I think NFL would love his measurables)
3) Thomas Booker- Go Pro as a Junior or Return (not sure if he is a real pro propsect)
4) Dalman- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year 
5) Sarell- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year
6) Wilson- Go Pro as a Junior or Return (not sure if he is a real pro prospect)
7) Weddington- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year
8) St. Brown- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year
9) DWP- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire
10) Reid- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire
11) Fisk- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire
12) Heimuli- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire
13) Backups: Noah Williams/Ryan Johhson/Keck- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire

My completely uninformed guess is that Mills, Sarell, Fehoko and Dalman will try the NFL and at least 2 players listed in the top 12 (OSB perhaps?) will grad transfer and a couple backups will grad transfer.

Update:  4 of the top 5 as somewhat expected declared for the draft. No word from Booker.
It looks like we got the first Senior to commit to come back for a fifth year with Heimuli which is great news. https://twitter.com/HHeimuli/status/1346524252288077824
All 5th years thus far not returning for a sixth year as expected but haven't heard from Schaffer or Fox yet

[Phogge]

Coliseum 1971. Ralston screwed up McKay's defensive game plan by running a Power I with Shockley or Kehl lined up behind Bunce. Jackie Brown offset and Winesberry moved from flanker to line up behind the FB. Power left, power right and SC couldn't stop it.

I would love to see Austin Jones lined up in the I with Heimuli and an Ogre running toss sweeps behind what should be an outstanding line. That way McKee wouldn't have to hand off.

[BostonCard]

1) Davis Mills- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year

2) Simi Fehoko- Go Pro as a Junior or Return (I think NFL would love his measurables)

3) Thomas Booker- Go Pro as a Junior or Return (not sure if he is a real pro propsect)

4) Dalman- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year

5) Sarell- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year

6) Wilson- Go Pro as a Junior or Return (not sure if he is a real pro prospect)

7) Weddington- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year

8) St. Brown- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year

9) DWP- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire

10) Reid- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire

11) Fisk- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire

12) Heimuli- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire (hinted he's coming back)





Backups: Noah Williams/Ryan Johhson/Keck- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire



Isiah Sanders: Return for a sixth year or retire (probably depends on whether he finishes his grad degree)

Dorian Maddox: Return for a sixth year or grad transfer or retire

Scooter Harrington: Return for a sixth year or grad transfer or retire

Thomas Schaffer: Return for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire

Jordan Fox: Return for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire

Curtis Robinson: Return for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire

Treyjohn Butler: REturn for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire

Malik Antoine: Return for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire

JJ Parsoms: Return for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire

Jet Toner: Return for a sixth year, go pro, grad transfer, or retire (not sure how good a pro prospect he is after his game against Oregon)



Of the above, Schaffer, Robinson, Antoine, and Toner are all starters.



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Edited to cross of Antoine.

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[SamuelMcF]

1) Davis Mills- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year
2) Simi Fehoko- Go Pro as a Junior or Return (I think NFL would love his measurables)
3) Thomas Booker- Go Pro as a Junior or Return (not sure if he is a real pro propsect)
4) Dalman- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year
5) Sarell- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year
6) Wilson- Go Pro as a Junior or Return (not sure if he is a real pro prospect)
7) Weddington- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year
8) St. Brown- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year
9) DWP- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire
10) Reid- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire
11) Fisk- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire
12) Heimuli- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire (hinted he's coming back)


Backups: Noah Williams/Ryan Johhson/Keck- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire

Isiah Sanders: Return for a sixth year or retire (probably depends on whether he finishes his grad degree)
Dorian Maddox: Return for a sixth year or grad transfer or retire
Scooter Harrington: Return for a sixth year or grad transfer or retire
Thomas Schaffer: Return for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire
Jordan Fox: Return for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire
Curtis Robinson: Return for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire
Treyjohn Butler: REturn for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire
Malik Antoine: Return for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire
JJ Parsoms: Return for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire
Jet Toner: Return for a sixth year, go pro, grad transfer, or retire (not sure how good a pro prospect he is after his game against Oregon)

Of the above, Schaffer, Robinson, Antoine, and Toner are all starters.

Antoine is moving on. That's been announced.

Technically Fox and Keck were OLB starters.

A few hunches: 
- St. Brown grad transfers (assuming Wedington and Wilson both return due to their injuries). He's been somewhat overshadowed by other guys during his career here, and it seems Tremayne and/or Higgins may have jumped him for PT too. That's a shame as I think he's a solid player, and he should see plenty of PT somewhere that needs WR help. This isn't Donald Stewart.
- Maddox moves on from football.
- Fisk returns. With Scooter moving on, he's the guy this coming season until further notice.
- Booker returns. Has some pro prospects but they aren't massive (yet) and he doesn't have his degree - education is VERY important to him.

[donkey687]

1) Davis Mills- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year
2) Simi Fehoko- Go Pro as a Junior or Return (I think NFL would love his measurables)
3) Thomas Booker- Go Pro as a Junior or Return (not sure if he is a real pro propsect)
4) Dalman- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year
5) Sarell- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year
6) Wilson- Go Pro as a Junior or Return (not sure if he is a real pro prospect)
7) Weddington- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year
8) St. Brown- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year
9) DWP- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire
10) Reid- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire
11) Fisk- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire
12) Heimuli- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire (hinted he's coming back)


Backups: Noah Williams/Ryan Johhson/Keck- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire

Isiah Sanders: Return for a sixth year or retire (probably depends on whether he finishes his grad degree)
Dorian Maddox: Return for a sixth year or grad transfer or retire
Scooter Harrington: Return for a sixth year or grad transfer or retire
Thomas Schaffer: Return for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire
Jordan Fox: Return for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire
Curtis Robinson: Return for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire
Treyjohn Butler: REturn for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire
Malik Antoine: Return for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire
JJ Parsoms: Return for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire
Jet Toner: Return for a sixth year, go pro, grad transfer, or retire (not sure how good a pro prospect he is after his game against Oregon)

Of the above, Schaffer, Robinson, Antoine, and Toner are all starters.

Antoine is moving on. That's been announced.

Technically Fox and Keck were OLB starters.

A few hunches: 
- St. Brown grad transfers (assuming Wedington and Wilson both return due to their injuries). He's been somewhat overshadowed by other guys during his career here, and it seems Tremayne and/or Higgins may have jumped him for PT too. That's a shame as I think he's a solid player, and he should see plenty of PT somewhere that needs WR help. This isn't Donald Stewart.
- Maddox moves on from football.
- Fisk returns. With Scooter moving on, he's the guy this coming season until further notice.
- Booker returns. Has some pro prospects but they aren't massive (yet) and he doesn't have his degree - education is VERY important to him.

The OSB situation this year was a bit of mystery. There was speculation but never acknowledgement that he got caught up in the Davis Mills botched test before the Oregon game. He then played in one game and never appeared again on the sideline and Shaw never mentioned him in press conferences along with other injuries. I assume he was injured but perhaps he was one of the players like Symonds who opted out of the rest of the season after Santa Clara forced the team on the road. He is probably the fastest receiver on the roster and our best deep threat with Fehoko gone. I really hopes he comes back.

[winflop]

is Mills one of the top five QBs in the eyes of at least one NFL team?

Maybe Ryan Pace (Bears GM) will trade his entire lot of 2021 draft picks to move up and take him? :P

[SamuelMcF]

If they can score scholarships and get a free Masters somewhere, that would be a sweet sweet deal. (I believe Dylan Boles got a scholarship at Northern Iowa, which is awesome for him.)

[winflop]

If they can score scholarships and get a free Masters somewhere, that would be a sweet sweet deal. (I believe Dylan Boles got a scholarship at Northern Iowa, which is awesome for him.)

I assume these guys are graduating? I wish them well and hope they find what they are looking for.

[SamuelMcF]

I assume these guys are graduating? I wish them well and hope they find what they are looking for.

Grad transfers. Every single Stanford player who has entered the transfer portal since its inception has been a grad transfer.

The only undergraduate transfer we have ever had under Shaw was Sione Lund (pre-portal), who was battling serious mental health issues.

[donkey687]

1) Davis Mills- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year

2) Simi Fehoko- Go Pro as a Junior or Return (I think NFL would love his measurables)

3) Thomas Booker- Go Pro as a Junior or Return (not sure if he is a real pro propsect)

4) Dalman- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year

5) Sarell- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year

6) Wilson- Go Pro as a Junior or Return (not sure if he is a real pro prospect)

7) Weddington- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year

8) St. Brown- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year

9) DWP- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire

10) Reid- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire

11) Fisk- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire

12) Heimuli- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire (hinted he's coming back)





Backups: Noah Williams/Ryan Johhson/Keck- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire



Isiah Sanders: Return for a sixth year or retire (probably depends on whether he finishes his grad degree)

Dorian Maddox: Return for a sixth year or grad transfer or retire

Scooter Harrington: Return for a sixth year or grad transfer or retire

Thomas Schaffer: Return for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire

Jordan Fox: Return for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire

Curtis Robinson: Return for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire

Treyjohn Butler: REturn for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire

Malik Antoine: Return for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire

JJ Parsoms: Return for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire

Jet Toner: Return for a sixth year, go pro, grad transfer, or retire (not sure how good a pro prospect he is after his game against Oregon)



Of the above, Schaffer, Robinson, Antoine, and Toner are all starters.



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Edited to cross of Antoine.

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Most questions have been answered. 10 scholarship seniors coming back for 5th or 6th year. 12 seniors departing.  It sounds like OSB is gone. No mention of Wilson. We really really need him after losing Fehoko, Wedington and OSB.  Will EJ Smith convert to WR to fill Wedington spot?

It looks like we have 8 returning starters on defense (sans Antoine, Robinson and Schaffer).  Not bad. With guys returning from injury at ILB and CB, it should be a much stronger defense in 2022 (not a high bar).  Fox is a pleasant surprise.  

Other than potentially OSB, we don't appear to have potential starters grad transferring like we did last year with Swan, Williams and Hamilton. That is a relief.

This will be a much more senior laden team than we have had for awhile plus a stellar jr class (most of our OL, RB and CBs).  Not a lot of holes in the roster. To the outsiders, QB will be a big question mark and will result in modest expectations from outsiders, but insiders sound pretty confident that McKee is going to be a great one.  It could be a good season.

[SamuelMcF]

1) Davis Mills- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year

2) Simi Fehoko- Go Pro as a Junior or Return (I think NFL would love his measurables)

3) Thomas Booker- Go Pro as a Junior or Return (not sure if he is a real pro propsect)

4) Dalman- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year

5) Sarell- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year

6) Wilson- Go Pro as a Junior or Return (not sure if he is a real pro prospect)

7) Weddington- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year

8) St. Brown- Go Pro or Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year

9) DWP- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire

10) Reid- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire

11) Fisk- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire

12) Heimuli- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire (hinted he's coming back)





Backups: Noah Williams/Ryan Johhson/Keck- Grad Transfer or Return for 5th Year or Retire



Isiah Sanders: Return for a sixth year or retire (probably depends on whether he finishes his grad degree)

Dorian Maddox: Return for a sixth year or grad transfer or retire

Scooter Harrington: Return for a sixth year or grad transfer or retire

Thomas Schaffer: Return for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire

Jordan Fox: Return for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire

Curtis Robinson: Return for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire

Treyjohn Butler: REturn for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire

Malik Antoine: Return for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire

JJ Parsoms: Return for a sixth year, grad transfer, or retire

Jet Toner: Return for a sixth year, go pro, grad transfer, or retire (not sure how good a pro prospect he is after his game against Oregon)



Of the above, Schaffer, Robinson, Antoine, and Toner are all starters.



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Edited to cross of Antoine.

BC

Most questions have been answered. 10 scholarship seniors coming back for 5th or 6th year. 12 seniors departing.  It sounds like OSB is gone. No mention of Wilson. We really really need him after losing Fehoko, Wedington and OSB.  Will EJ Smith convert to WR to fill Wedington spot?

Wilson does not yet have his degree, (unfortunately) got injured hampering his draft stock, and will be the clear WR1 next season.

I don't see EJ Smith converting to WR. We have Tremayne, Higgins, Humphreys, and plenty of younger as-yet-unknown quantities (Colby Bowman, Bryce Farrell, Silas Starr) at the position. I also hope we successfully hunt a whale in 2022.