[82 Card]

It apparently costs about $125/test. I have no idea whether this kind of testing was used for Newsom's dinner or not, but if it was, there is nothing really to see here other than an example of how the privileged can get tested to gather safely and the masses can't.

Sure. When you're already paying $350 a head, what's another $125 a head. Let's all go.

Once upon a time, politicians pretended to be of the people.

[82 Card]

It apparently costs about $125/test. I have no idea whether this kind of testing was used for Newsom's dinner or not, but if it was, there is nothing really to see here other than an example of how the privileged can get tested to gather safely and the masses can't.

Sure. When you're already paying $350 a head, what's another $125 a head. Let's all go.

Once upon a time, politicians pretended to be of the people.

[fullmetal]

The ex-husband of Kimberly Guilfoyle...*slow clap*

[fullmetal]

The ex-husband of Kimberly Guilfoyle...*slow clap*

[BostonCard]

It gets worse.

https://www.politico.com/states/californ...ey-1336924


My god, did no one at the CMA stop and think "This is a bad idea" and advise Newsome of the same?  I mean, the French Laundry is not worth dying over, or, worse, sending the public mixed messages.

BC

[BostonCard]

It gets worse.

https://www.politico.com/states/californ...ey-1336924


My god, did no one at the CMA stop and think "This is a bad idea" and advise Newsome of the same?  I mean, the French Laundry is not worth dying over, or, worse, sending the public mixed messages.

BC

[82 Card]

It gets worse.

https://www.politico.com/states/californ...ey-1336924


My god, did no one at the CMA stop and think "This is a bad idea" and advise Newsome of the same?  I mean, the French Laundry is not worth dying over, or, worse, sending the public mixed messages.

BC

Maybe they're from the Atlas school of doctoring.

[82 Card]

It gets worse.

https://www.politico.com/states/californ...ey-1336924


My god, did no one at the CMA stop and think "This is a bad idea" and advise Newsome of the same?  I mean, the French Laundry is not worth dying over, or, worse, sending the public mixed messages.

BC

Maybe they're from the Atlas school of doctoring.

[JustAnotherFan]

It gets worse.

https://www.politico.com/states/californ...ey-1336924


My god, did no one at the CMA stop and think "This is a bad idea" and advise Newsome of the same?  I mean, the French Laundry is not worth dying over, or, worse, sending the public mixed messages.

BC

Many think it is worth it. It's "to die for" is taking on a whole new meaning during pandemic.

[JustAnotherFan]

It gets worse.

https://www.politico.com/states/californ...ey-1336924


My god, did no one at the CMA stop and think "This is a bad idea" and advise Newsome of the same?  I mean, the French Laundry is not worth dying over, or, worse, sending the public mixed messages.

BC

Many think it is worth it. It's "to die for" is taking on a whole new meaning during pandemic.

[teejers1]

It gets worse.

https://www.politico.com/states/californ...ey-1336924


My god, did no one at the CMA stop and think "This is a bad idea" and advise Newsome of the same?  I mean, the French Laundry is not worth dying over, or, worse, sending the public mixed messages.

BC

Many think it is worth it. It's "to die for" is taking on a whole new meaning during pandemic.

The effort expended to point fingers and be outraged - even at public figures/politicians - is a bit over the top.  Just try and do better in the future.  And try to make reasoned policy - not extreme in one direction or the other.  That way you don't give ammo to those who want to rail away.

P.S.  When this is all clear, I'd like to dine at French Laundry - maybe even a bucket list item.

[teejers1]

It gets worse.

https://www.politico.com/states/californ...ey-1336924


My god, did no one at the CMA stop and think "This is a bad idea" and advise Newsome of the same?  I mean, the French Laundry is not worth dying over, or, worse, sending the public mixed messages.

BC

Many think it is worth it. It's "to die for" is taking on a whole new meaning during pandemic.

The effort expended to point fingers and be outraged - even at public figures/politicians - is a bit over the top.  Just try and do better in the future.  And try to make reasoned policy - not extreme in one direction or the other.  That way you don't give ammo to those who want to rail away.

P.S.  When this is all clear, I'd like to dine at French Laundry - maybe even a bucket list item.

[BostonCard]

I think there are two concerns about this event:
1) At a time when we are all being asked to sacrifice for the common good, this even undermines the sense of joint sacrifice
2) Given the importance of consistent messaging from authorities, this confuses rather than clarifies the messaging

Whether the dinner "adhered to all health and safety measures" or not is not the issue.  The average person is not going to perform a detailed review of their local county's ordinance to determine whether a get together with friends they are thinking of is allowable or not; they will base it on what they are observing around them, and if they observe the governor engaging in a large get together, what are the chances they will follow the spirit, let alone the letter of local healthcare directives.

BC

[BostonCard]

I think there are two concerns about this event:
1) At a time when we are all being asked to sacrifice for the common good, this even undermines the sense of joint sacrifice
2) Given the importance of consistent messaging from authorities, this confuses rather than clarifies the messaging

Whether the dinner "adhered to all health and safety measures" or not is not the issue.  The average person is not going to perform a detailed review of their local county's ordinance to determine whether a get together with friends they are thinking of is allowable or not; they will base it on what they are observing around them, and if they observe the governor engaging in a large get together, what are the chances they will follow the spirit, let alone the letter of local healthcare directives.

BC

[Mick]

P.S.  When this is all clear, I'd like to dine at French Laundry - maybe even a bucket list item.

My best lunch ever.  Similar to Gov Newsom, it was for my wife's 50th birthday.  My boss at the time was a part owner of the French Laundry. It was amazing.  14 courses (3 bites each), got to tour the kitchen, meet Thomas Keller, toured their roadside herb garden in Yountville.  Great, great time.

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I think there are two concerns about this event:
1) At a time when we are all being asked to sacrifice for the common good, this even undermines the sense of joint sacrifice
2) Given the importance of consistent messaging from authorities, this confuses rather than clarifies the messaging

Whether the dinner "adhered to all health and safety measures" or not is not the issue.  The average person is not going to perform a detailed review of their local county's ordinance to determine whether a get together with friends they are thinking of is allowable or not; they will base it on what they are observing around them, and if they observe the governor engaging in a large get together, what are the chances they will follow the spirit, let alone the letter of local healthcare directives.

BC

At least Jimmy Carter wore sweaters when he turned down the White House thermostat, and sent Amy to public DC schools -- unlike some Democratic presidents I could name.

[Mick]

P.S.  When this is all clear, I'd like to dine at French Laundry - maybe even a bucket list item.

My best lunch ever.  Similar to Gov Newsom, it was for my wife's 50th birthday.  My boss at the time was a part owner of the French Laundry. It was amazing.  14 courses (3 bites each), got to tour the kitchen, meet Thomas Keller, toured their roadside herb garden in Yountville.  Great, great time.

---

I think there are two concerns about this event:
1) At a time when we are all being asked to sacrifice for the common good, this even undermines the sense of joint sacrifice
2) Given the importance of consistent messaging from authorities, this confuses rather than clarifies the messaging

Whether the dinner "adhered to all health and safety measures" or not is not the issue.  The average person is not going to perform a detailed review of their local county's ordinance to determine whether a get together with friends they are thinking of is allowable or not; they will base it on what they are observing around them, and if they observe the governor engaging in a large get together, what are the chances they will follow the spirit, let alone the letter of local healthcare directives.

BC

At least Jimmy Carter wore sweaters when he turned down the White House thermostat, and sent Amy to public DC schools -- unlike some Democratic presidents I could name.

[BostonCard]

https://www.theonion.com/gavin-newsom-sl...1845716527

“It’s absolutely unthinkable that the governor would attend a gathering at an establishment that peaked 15 years ago when he and top lobbyists could have dined at Chef Dominique Crenn’s strikingly inventive restaurant instead,”

The Onion FTW!

Teejers, you might want to revise your own bucket list.

BC

[BostonCard]

https://www.theonion.com/gavin-newsom-sl...1845716527

“It’s absolutely unthinkable that the governor would attend a gathering at an establishment that peaked 15 years ago when he and top lobbyists could have dined at Chef Dominique Crenn’s strikingly inventive restaurant instead,”

The Onion FTW!

Teejers, you might want to revise your own bucket list.

BC

[Farm93]

and sent Amy to public DC schools -- unlike some Democratic presidents I could name.

I think the assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan changed a lot for the Secret Service.   The Reagans started that administration trying to be open and available, but that ended abruptly when he was almost killed.   Now the security logistics and infrastructure burdens are almost enough on their own to eliminate the public schools for any future young kids.   So I don't see a POTUS putting a child into a DC school unless it is absolutely part of their image, brand or campaign.  

Quite probable Amy Carter will be the answer to that trivia question for a long, long time.

https://www.businessinsider.com/where-pr...ool-2017-6

FWIW - Not sure if you were talking about the Clintons or Obamas.  However, thanks to the USA's extensive history with racism the Obamas had quite a few death threats.   I don't think it would have been possible for the Obama daughters to go to a public school without dramatically altering the schools they were attending.   And that would have only added fuel to the racist rage. 

As Chelsea is an alum, I trust you weren't going there.
Trash talking about the educational choices made by a Stanford Mom and a Stanford Dad would not be wise on this board.  ;)

[Farm93]

and sent Amy to public DC schools -- unlike some Democratic presidents I could name.

I think the assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan changed a lot for the Secret Service.   The Reagans started that administration trying to be open and available, but that ended abruptly when he was almost killed.   Now the security logistics and infrastructure burdens are almost enough on their own to eliminate the public schools for any future young kids.   So I don't see a POTUS putting a child into a DC school unless it is absolutely part of their image, brand or campaign.  

Quite probable Amy Carter will be the answer to that trivia question for a long, long time.

https://www.businessinsider.com/where-pr...ool-2017-6

FWIW - Not sure if you were talking about the Clintons or Obamas.  However, thanks to the USA's extensive history with racism the Obamas had quite a few death threats.   I don't think it would have been possible for the Obama daughters to go to a public school without dramatically altering the schools they were attending.   And that would have only added fuel to the racist rage. 

As Chelsea is an alum, I trust you weren't going there.
Trash talking about the educational choices made by a Stanford Mom and a Stanford Dad would not be wise on this board.  ;)

[2006alum]

Throw Birx onto the trash heap of "do as I say, not as I do" leadership:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/1340735445131354114?s=20[/tweet]

Incidentally, my get together next weekend will not be primarily for Christmas but for Boxing Day.

[2006alum]

Throw Birx onto the trash heap of "do as I say, not as I do" leadership:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/1340735445131354114?s=20[/tweet]

Incidentally, my get together next weekend will not be primarily for Christmas but for Boxing Day.

[lex24]

Throw Birx onto the trash heap of "do as I say, not as I do" leadership:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/1340735445131354114?s=20[/tweet]

Incidentally, my get together next weekend will not be primarily for Christmas but for Boxing Day.

LOL.  Great line.

[lex24]

Throw Birx onto the trash heap of "do as I say, not as I do" leadership:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/1340735445131354114?s=20[/tweet]

Incidentally, my get together next weekend will not be primarily for Christmas but for Boxing Day.

LOL.  Great line.

[BostonCard]

My Hanukah, Christmas, Boxing Day, etc. get together will be over zoom.  We had an outdoor Thanksgiving dinner with my in laws, who live about 3 miles from us.  While I am confident that we could do Christmas safely as well, it's just not worth it.

BC

[BostonCard]

My Hanukah, Christmas, Boxing Day, etc. get together will be over zoom.  We had an outdoor Thanksgiving dinner with my in laws, who live about 3 miles from us.  While I am confident that we could do Christmas safely as well, it's just not worth it.

BC