[BostonCard]

I like the slow mesh RPO. Allows our QB to see the defensive coverage before making a decision

What does that even mean? Is there a fast mesh RPO?

As I understand it, the “mesh” is the period of time when the QB and RB both have their hands on the ball, and the option to hand off or throw is in effect.  

https://vanderbilthustler.com/2022/09/08...slow-mesh/

Over the last few seasons Wake Forest’s offense has become notorious for its confounding RPO (run-pass option) system known as the “slow mesh.” Whereas the typical RPO lasts about 1 second from the quarterback’s read to decision, Wake Forest’s average RPO lasts closer to 2.5 seconds. Instead of quickly reading the defense then making a snap decision, Wake’s quarterback begins the handoff process first then reads the defense while holding the ball against the running back’s chest. This delayed convergence, or “mesh,” between quarterback and running back led to the name “slow mesh.”

As you can imagine, the longer the mesh, the harder it is for the offensive line to block without blocking downfield.

BC

[BostonCard]

I like the slow mesh RPO. Allows our QB to see the defensive coverage before making a decision

What does that even mean? Is there a fast mesh RPO?

As I understand it, the “mesh” is the period of time when the QB and RB both have their hands on the ball, and the option to hand off or throw is in effect.  

https://vanderbilthustler.com/2022/09/08...slow-mesh/

Over the last few seasons Wake Forest’s offense has become notorious for its confounding RPO (run-pass option) system known as the “slow mesh.” Whereas the typical RPO lasts about 1 second from the quarterback’s read to decision, Wake Forest’s average RPO lasts closer to 2.5 seconds. Instead of quickly reading the defense then making a snap decision, Wake’s quarterback begins the handoff process first then reads the defense while holding the ball against the running back’s chest. This delayed convergence, or “mesh,” between quarterback and running back led to the name “slow mesh.”

As you can imagine, the longer the mesh, the harder it is for the offensive line to block without blocking downfield.

BC

[cardcrimson]

Thanks! 2.5 Seconds? Doesn't that seem like an eternity to make the decision whether to pass or hand off?

[cardcrimson]

Thanks! 2.5 Seconds? Doesn't that seem like an eternity to make the decision whether to pass or hand off?

[CTcard]

Thanks! 2.5 Seconds? Doesn't that seem like an eternity to make the decision whether to pass or hand off?

While watching it definitely seems like an eternity. Being a generally paranoid fan, I keep thinking that doing this so slowly is going to allow an opposing lineman to crush the mesh, leading to a fumble, etc. 

There were times that it was clear McKee couldn't make up his mind on the read, and a few where he clearly made the wrong read. However, given this was the first time this scheme appeared in a game, it actually seemed to go reasonably smoothly overall. The key question is what will improve more going forward: our execution of the scheme or our opponent's ability to attack the scheme (once they know its coming).

[CTcard]

Thanks! 2.5 Seconds? Doesn't that seem like an eternity to make the decision whether to pass or hand off?

While watching it definitely seems like an eternity. Being a generally paranoid fan, I keep thinking that doing this so slowly is going to allow an opposing lineman to crush the mesh, leading to a fumble, etc. 

There were times that it was clear McKee couldn't make up his mind on the read, and a few where he clearly made the wrong read. However, given this was the first time this scheme appeared in a game, it actually seemed to go reasonably smoothly overall. The key question is what will improve more going forward: our execution of the scheme or our opponent's ability to attack the scheme (once they know its coming).