Welp, this big rainstorm seems to have found it's way through my roof into my bedroom, and I can't even blame it on Santa Claus! Hopefully he can bring me some good recommendations for roofing contractors...
Flooding, Lake Lag, California Water situation
Welp, this big rainstorm seems to have found it's way through my roof into my bedroom, and I can't even blame it on Santa Claus! Hopefully he can bring me some good recommendations for roofing contractors...
California Dept of Water Resources first measurement (Dec. 30) of the snow pack indicates it is at 71% of normal for this date statewide (Dec. 31: Northern Sierra/Trinity at 50%; Central Sierra at 70%; Southern Sierra at 91%).
"Major reservoirs statewide are currently 123 percent of average thanks to recent precipitation on top of three consecutive years of above-average snowpack conditions."
"Major reservoirs statewide are currently 123 percent of average thanks to recent precipitation on top of three consecutive years of above-average snowpack conditions."
California Dept of Water Resources first measurement (Dec. 30) of the snow pack indicates it is at 71% of normal for this date statewide (Dec. 31: Northern Sierra/Trinity at 50%; Central Sierra at 70%; Southern Sierra at 91%).
"Major reservoirs statewide are currently 123 percent of average thanks to recent precipitation on top of three consecutive years of above-average snowpack conditions."
"Major reservoirs statewide are currently 123 percent of average thanks to recent precipitation on top of three consecutive years of above-average snowpack conditions."
01-06-2026, 09:11 AM
Sierra snowpack has almost caught up to expected averages for this time of year.
https://mymotherlode.com/news/local/1036...e.html/amp
I think we are headed towards a drier rest of the month, and there is still a lot of time left until the April 1 end of the water year.
BC
https://mymotherlode.com/news/local/1036...e.html/amp
I think we are headed towards a drier rest of the month, and there is still a lot of time left until the April 1 end of the water year.
BC
Sierra snowpack has almost caught up to expected averages for this time of year.
https://mymotherlode.com/news/local/1036...e.html/amp
I think we are headed towards a drier rest of the month, and there is still a lot of time left until the April 1 end of the water year.
BC
https://mymotherlode.com/news/local/1036...e.html/amp
I think we are headed towards a drier rest of the month, and there is still a lot of time left until the April 1 end of the water year.
BC
01-06-2026, 10:44 AM
I know that this thread has mostly focused on Northern California/Sierra Nevada, but Santa Barbara County--where I've lived since 2000--reports that the county has already exceeded its "normal water-year" rainfall:
https://files.countyofsb.org/pwd/hydrolo...report.pdf
https://files.countyofsb.org/pwd/hydrolo...report.pdf
If there's one thing people have learned in Berkeley, it's that you can't put "Cal football" and "Rose Bowl" in the same sentence. The words just don't fit. You'd be better off linking "covered wagons" with "Mars travel." (Bruce Jenkins, Cal '70, SF Chronicle, Nov. 11, 2017)
I know that this thread has mostly focused on Northern California/Sierra Nevada, but Santa Barbara County--where I've lived since 2000--reports that the county has already exceeded its "normal water-year" rainfall:
https://files.countyofsb.org/pwd/hydrolo...report.pdf
https://files.countyofsb.org/pwd/hydrolo...report.pdf
If there's one thing people have learned in Berkeley, it's that you can't put "Cal football" and "Rose Bowl" in the same sentence. The words just don't fit. You'd be better off linking "covered wagons" with "Mars travel." (Bruce Jenkins, Cal '70, SF Chronicle, Nov. 11, 2017)
01-06-2026, 12:02 PM
Audaces fortuna iuvat
Audaces fortuna iuvat
Mick, do you have a source for that regional risk summary?
If there's one thing people have learned in Berkeley, it's that you can't put "Cal football" and "Rose Bowl" in the same sentence. The words just don't fit. You'd be better off linking "covered wagons" with "Mars travel." (Bruce Jenkins, Cal '70, SF Chronicle, Nov. 11, 2017)
01-06-2026, 12:45 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-06-2026, 12:46 PM by Papa John.)
Mick, do you have a source for that regional risk summary?
If there's one thing people have learned in Berkeley, it's that you can't put "Cal football" and "Rose Bowl" in the same sentence. The words just don't fit. You'd be better off linking "covered wagons" with "Mars travel." (Bruce Jenkins, Cal '70, SF Chronicle, Nov. 11, 2017)
Here's an alternate source covering the warmer winter precipitation in late 2025 and the impact on the state's water supply. This mostly supports Mick's risk profile with an emphasis on the Central Valley/Fresno but but adds some color on NorCal reservoirs and relatively low snow pack due to warmer rain in the lower Sierras.
https://www.fresnobee.com/news/californi...84905.html
(Note, this may be paywalled BUT I was able to read the full article using Incognito Mode.)
https://www.fresnobee.com/news/californi...84905.html
(Note, this may be paywalled BUT I was able to read the full article using Incognito Mode.)
In 1938 Neville Chamberlain declared "Peace in our time", Superman first appeared in Action Comics, Seabiscuit beat War Admiral ....... and C.a.l last won the Rose Bowl.
01-06-2026, 01:12 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-06-2026, 02:23 PM by Leftcoast.)
Here's an alternate source covering the warmer winter precipitation in late 2025 and the impact on the state's water supply. This mostly supports Mick's risk profile with an emphasis on the Central Valley/Fresno but but adds some color on NorCal reservoirs and relatively low snow pack due to warmer rain in the lower Sierras.
https://www.fresnobee.com/news/californi...84905.html
(Note, this may be paywalled BUT I was able to read the full article using Incognito Mode.)
https://www.fresnobee.com/news/californi...84905.html
(Note, this may be paywalled BUT I was able to read the full article using Incognito Mode.)
In 1938 Neville Chamberlain declared "Peace in our time", Superman first appeared in Action Comics, Seabiscuit beat War Admiral ....... and C.a.l last won the Rose Bowl.
01-06-2026, 02:18 PM
(01-06-2026, 12:45 PM)Papa John Wrote: Mick, do you have a source for that regional risk summary?
And the date of that information, and what "Typical status" is supposed to mean.
I don't buy its characterizations if that table is supposed to mean current (2025-2026) status.
For instance, LA County Season Total is pretty close to Season Average across the county but that spreadsheet puts it Below Normal.
NOAAs drought info has essentially all of California as having no drought.
California Water Watch shows statewide rain as 156% of normal (59% of full year), with almost no areas less than normal.
(01-06-2026, 12:45 PM)Papa John Wrote: Mick, do you have a source for that regional risk summary?
And the date of that information, and what "Typical status" is supposed to mean.
I don't buy its characterizations if that table is supposed to mean current (2025-2026) status.
For instance, LA County Season Total is pretty close to Season Average across the county but that spreadsheet puts it Below Normal.
NOAAs drought info has essentially all of California as having no drought.
California Water Watch shows statewide rain as 156% of normal (59% of full year), with almost no areas less than normal.
01-06-2026, 02:45 PM
California Water Watch is always a good resource.
My summary - Rainwater in good shape, Reservoirs OK in most of the state with some concerns in the large Northern Reservoirs but much better than in past drought years, some work to do in snowpack, particularly at lower elevations but much better than previous years.
Ground water is a concern in the Central Valley particularly in the South/East quadrant. Not a surprise as this has been a 50 year issue and some of the cities their are addicted to pumping despite efforts to develop other water sources.
My summary - Rainwater in good shape, Reservoirs OK in most of the state with some concerns in the large Northern Reservoirs but much better than in past drought years, some work to do in snowpack, particularly at lower elevations but much better than previous years.
Ground water is a concern in the Central Valley particularly in the South/East quadrant. Not a surprise as this has been a 50 year issue and some of the cities their are addicted to pumping despite efforts to develop other water sources.
In 1938 Neville Chamberlain declared "Peace in our time", Superman first appeared in Action Comics, Seabiscuit beat War Admiral ....... and C.a.l last won the Rose Bowl.
California Water Watch is always a good resource.
My summary - Rainwater in good shape, Reservoirs OK in most of the state with some concerns in the large Northern Reservoirs but much better than in past drought years, some work to do in snowpack, particularly at lower elevations but much better than previous years.
Ground water is a concern in the Central Valley particularly in the South/East quadrant. Not a surprise as this has been a 50 year issue and some of the cities their are addicted to pumping despite efforts to develop other water sources.
My summary - Rainwater in good shape, Reservoirs OK in most of the state with some concerns in the large Northern Reservoirs but much better than in past drought years, some work to do in snowpack, particularly at lower elevations but much better than previous years.
Ground water is a concern in the Central Valley particularly in the South/East quadrant. Not a surprise as this has been a 50 year issue and some of the cities their are addicted to pumping despite efforts to develop other water sources.
In 1938 Neville Chamberlain declared "Peace in our time", Superman first appeared in Action Comics, Seabiscuit beat War Admiral ....... and C.a.l last won the Rose Bowl.
01-06-2026, 03:49 PM
Lake Shasta gained 30 feet with the latest storm!
https://www.sfchronicle.com/california/a...279869.php
BC
https://www.sfchronicle.com/california/a...279869.php
BC
Lake Shasta gained 30 feet with the latest storm!
https://www.sfchronicle.com/california/a...279869.php
BC
https://www.sfchronicle.com/california/a...279869.php
BC
01-06-2026, 03:53 PM
(01-06-2026, 12:45 PM)Papa John Wrote: Mick, do you have a source for that regional risk summary?
I. Primary, Authoritative Data Sources (Observed Precipitation)
These are the core systems used by hydrologists, state agencies, and climate scientists.
1. NOAA / RCC ACIS (Applied Climate Information System)
- Website: https://www.rcc-acis.org
- API Endpoint: https://data.rcc-acis.org
- Maintained by: NOAA Regional Climate Centers
- Used for:
- Station-level daily precipitation
- County aggregation
- Season-to-date calculations
- Normals-to-date comparisons (via normal=1)
- Station-level daily precipitation
- Gold standard for county-level precipitation analysis
- Primary backbone of the compilation
2. NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI)
- Website: https://www.ncei.noaa.gov
- Used for:
- Historical precipitation records
- Station metadata
- Long-term climate continuity checks
- Historical precipitation records
- Feeds ACIS and many downstream tools
3. NOAA COOP / GHCN-Daily Station Network
- Website: https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/products/land-...work-daily
- Used for:
- Daily rainfall at long-running stations
- Rural and agricultural coverage
- Daily rainfall at long-running stations
- Critical for interior counties and long-term normals
II. Normals, Baselines & Climate Context
These sources establish what “normal” means for the exact date range (10/1 → 1/5).
4. NOAA Climate Normals (1991–2020)
- Website: https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/products/land-...te-normals
- Used for:
- Precipitation normals
- Percent-of-normal calculations
- Precipitation normals
- Normals embedded directly into ACIS outputs
5. Western Regional Climate Center (WRCC)
- Website: https://wrcc.dri.edu
- Used for:
- Western-U.S. precipitation climatology
- Orographic and regional precipitation interpretation
- Western-U.S. precipitation climatology
- Cross-checks Sierra vs valley behavior
6. California Nevada River Forecast Center (CNRFC – NOAA)
- Website: https://www.cnrfc.noaa.gov
- Used for:
- Basin-scale precipitation patterns
- Storm impact interpretation
- Flood vs water-supply risk context
- Basin-scale precipitation patterns
III. California-Specific Water & Climate Agencies
Used to ground-truth and interpret risk, not to replace NOAA data.
7. California Department of Water Resources (DWR)
- Website: https://water.ca.gov
- Key Portals:
- Snow surveys
- Water supply outlooks
- Snow surveys
- Used for:
- Sierra snowpack relevance
- Reservoir sensitivity context
- Sierra snowpack relevance
8. California Data Exchange Center (CDEC)
- Website: https://cdec.water.ca.gov
- Used for:
- Precipitation gages
- Snow-water equivalent
- Precipitation gages
- Helpful for understanding county variability
9. California Climate Tracker (UC / State collaboration)
- Website: https://californiaclimate.org
- Used for:
- Regional anomaly visualization
- Climate trend validation
- Regional anomaly visualization
IV. Supplemental / Analytical Cross-Checks
These are not primary data but help validate spatial patterns.
10. PRISM Climate Group (Oregon State University)
- Website: https://prism.oregonstate.edu
- Used for:
- Gridded precipitation context
- Orographic bias correction understanding
- Gridded precipitation context
- Especially useful in mountainous counties
11. NOAA Physical Sciences Laboratory (PSL)
- Website: https://psl.noaa.gov
- Used for:
- Large-scale pattern context (ENSO-neutral, ridging)
- Storm-track behavior explanation
- Large-scale pattern context (ENSO-neutral, ridging)
12. National Weather Service (NWS) Forecast Offices (CA)
- Examples:
- https://www.weather.gov/mtr (Bay Area)
- https://www.weather.gov/lox (Los Angeles)
- https://www.weather.gov/sto (Sacramento)
- https://www.weather.gov/mtr (Bay Area)
- Used for:
- Local storm summaries
- Event-scale confirmation
- Local storm summaries
V. Risk Interpretation & Sector Implications
Used to translate rainfall anomalies into practical risk.
13. U.S. Drought Monitor
- Website: https://droughtmonitor.unl.edu
- Used for:
- Early-season drought signal confirmation
- SoCal & Central Valley risk framing
- Early-season drought signal confirmation
14. CAL FIRE Fire Hazard Mapping
- Website: https://www.fire.ca.gov
- Used for:
- Wildfire risk interpretation tied to precipitation deficits
- Wildfire risk interpretation tied to precipitation deficits
15. USDA Climate Hubs (California)
- Website: https://www.climatehubs.usda.gov/hubs/california
- Used for:
- Agricultural sensitivity context
- Central Valley implications
- Agricultural sensitivity context
Summary (Plain English)
- Observed precipitation: NOAA ACIS (via RCC + NCEI stations)
- Normals: NOAA Climate Normals (1991–2020), embedded in ACIS
- Spatial sanity checks: WRCC, PRISM, CDEC
Methodology Overview
Includes data sources, assumptions, and analytical methods used to compile the California Regional Rainfall and Risk Summary (Water Year-to-Date, Oct 1, 2025 – Jan 5, 2026).
Primary Data Source
NOAA Regional Climate Centers – Applied Climate Information System (ACIS)
https://www.rcc-acis.org | https://data.rcc-acis.org
Used for station-level daily precipitation, county aggregation, season-to-date totals, and normal-to-date comparisons using NOAA 1991–2020 climate normals.
Supporting Federal Sources
NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI) – station metadata and historical continuity
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov
NOAA Cooperative Observer Program (COOP) / GHCN-Daily – long-running daily precipitation stations
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/products/land-...work-daily
Regional & State Cross-Checks
Western Regional Climate Center (WRCC) – western U.S. precipitation climatology
https://wrcc.dri.edu
California Department of Water Resources (DWR) – snowpack and water supply context
https://water.ca.gov
California Data Exchange Center (CDEC) – precipitation and snow-water-equivalent gages
https://cdec.water.ca.gov
Analytical & Spatial Validation
PRISM Climate Group (Oregon State University) – gridded precipitation and orographic context
https://prism.oregonstate.edu
NOAA California-Nevada River Forecast Center (CNRFC) – basin-scale precipitation patterns
https://www.cnrfc.noaa.gov
Risk Interpretation Sources
U.S. Drought Monitor – drought classification and early-season signals
https://droughtmonitor.unl.edu
CAL FIRE – wildfire risk and fuel moisture context
https://www.fire.ca.gov
USDA Climate Hubs (California) – agricultural impact context
https://www.climatehubs.usda.gov/hubs/california
Key Assumptions & Notes
• Aggregation is based on county-average station observations; no area-weighted gridding was applied.
• 'Normal' refers to NOAA 1991–2020 climate normals for the same date range.
• Sierra Nevada counties are heavily influenced by snow-water equivalent and orographic effects.
• Risk implications are qualitative and intended for planning and briefing purposes.
Audaces fortuna iuvat
(01-06-2026, 12:45 PM)Papa John Wrote: Mick, do you have a source for that regional risk summary?
I. Primary, Authoritative Data Sources (Observed Precipitation)
These are the core systems used by hydrologists, state agencies, and climate scientists.
1. NOAA / RCC ACIS (Applied Climate Information System)
- Website: https://www.rcc-acis.org
- API Endpoint: https://data.rcc-acis.org
- Maintained by: NOAA Regional Climate Centers
- Used for:
- Station-level daily precipitation
- County aggregation
- Season-to-date calculations
- Normals-to-date comparisons (via normal=1)
- Station-level daily precipitation
- Gold standard for county-level precipitation analysis
- Primary backbone of the compilation
2. NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI)
- Website: https://www.ncei.noaa.gov
- Used for:
- Historical precipitation records
- Station metadata
- Long-term climate continuity checks
- Historical precipitation records
- Feeds ACIS and many downstream tools
3. NOAA COOP / GHCN-Daily Station Network
- Website: https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/products/land-...work-daily
- Used for:
- Daily rainfall at long-running stations
- Rural and agricultural coverage
- Daily rainfall at long-running stations
- Critical for interior counties and long-term normals
II. Normals, Baselines & Climate Context
These sources establish what “normal” means for the exact date range (10/1 → 1/5).
4. NOAA Climate Normals (1991–2020)
- Website: https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/products/land-...te-normals
- Used for:
- Precipitation normals
- Percent-of-normal calculations
- Precipitation normals
- Normals embedded directly into ACIS outputs
5. Western Regional Climate Center (WRCC)
- Website: https://wrcc.dri.edu
- Used for:
- Western-U.S. precipitation climatology
- Orographic and regional precipitation interpretation
- Western-U.S. precipitation climatology
- Cross-checks Sierra vs valley behavior
6. California Nevada River Forecast Center (CNRFC – NOAA)
- Website: https://www.cnrfc.noaa.gov
- Used for:
- Basin-scale precipitation patterns
- Storm impact interpretation
- Flood vs water-supply risk context
- Basin-scale precipitation patterns
III. California-Specific Water & Climate Agencies
Used to ground-truth and interpret risk, not to replace NOAA data.
7. California Department of Water Resources (DWR)
- Website: https://water.ca.gov
- Key Portals:
- Snow surveys
- Water supply outlooks
- Snow surveys
- Used for:
- Sierra snowpack relevance
- Reservoir sensitivity context
- Sierra snowpack relevance
8. California Data Exchange Center (CDEC)
- Website: https://cdec.water.ca.gov
- Used for:
- Precipitation gages
- Snow-water equivalent
- Precipitation gages
- Helpful for understanding county variability
9. California Climate Tracker (UC / State collaboration)
- Website: https://californiaclimate.org
- Used for:
- Regional anomaly visualization
- Climate trend validation
- Regional anomaly visualization
IV. Supplemental / Analytical Cross-Checks
These are not primary data but help validate spatial patterns.
10. PRISM Climate Group (Oregon State University)
- Website: https://prism.oregonstate.edu
- Used for:
- Gridded precipitation context
- Orographic bias correction understanding
- Gridded precipitation context
- Especially useful in mountainous counties
11. NOAA Physical Sciences Laboratory (PSL)
- Website: https://psl.noaa.gov
- Used for:
- Large-scale pattern context (ENSO-neutral, ridging)
- Storm-track behavior explanation
- Large-scale pattern context (ENSO-neutral, ridging)
12. National Weather Service (NWS) Forecast Offices (CA)
- Examples:
- https://www.weather.gov/mtr (Bay Area)
- https://www.weather.gov/lox (Los Angeles)
- https://www.weather.gov/sto (Sacramento)
- https://www.weather.gov/mtr (Bay Area)
- Used for:
- Local storm summaries
- Event-scale confirmation
- Local storm summaries
V. Risk Interpretation & Sector Implications
Used to translate rainfall anomalies into practical risk.
13. U.S. Drought Monitor
- Website: https://droughtmonitor.unl.edu
- Used for:
- Early-season drought signal confirmation
- SoCal & Central Valley risk framing
- Early-season drought signal confirmation
14. CAL FIRE Fire Hazard Mapping
- Website: https://www.fire.ca.gov
- Used for:
- Wildfire risk interpretation tied to precipitation deficits
- Wildfire risk interpretation tied to precipitation deficits
15. USDA Climate Hubs (California)
- Website: https://www.climatehubs.usda.gov/hubs/california
- Used for:
- Agricultural sensitivity context
- Central Valley implications
- Agricultural sensitivity context
Summary (Plain English)
- Observed precipitation: NOAA ACIS (via RCC + NCEI stations)
- Normals: NOAA Climate Normals (1991–2020), embedded in ACIS
- Spatial sanity checks: WRCC, PRISM, CDEC
Methodology Overview
Includes data sources, assumptions, and analytical methods used to compile the California Regional Rainfall and Risk Summary (Water Year-to-Date, Oct 1, 2025 – Jan 5, 2026).
Primary Data Source
NOAA Regional Climate Centers – Applied Climate Information System (ACIS)
https://www.rcc-acis.org | https://data.rcc-acis.org
Used for station-level daily precipitation, county aggregation, season-to-date totals, and normal-to-date comparisons using NOAA 1991–2020 climate normals.
Supporting Federal Sources
NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI) – station metadata and historical continuity
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov
NOAA Cooperative Observer Program (COOP) / GHCN-Daily – long-running daily precipitation stations
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/products/land-...work-daily
Regional & State Cross-Checks
Western Regional Climate Center (WRCC) – western U.S. precipitation climatology
https://wrcc.dri.edu
California Department of Water Resources (DWR) – snowpack and water supply context
https://water.ca.gov
California Data Exchange Center (CDEC) – precipitation and snow-water-equivalent gages
https://cdec.water.ca.gov
Analytical & Spatial Validation
PRISM Climate Group (Oregon State University) – gridded precipitation and orographic context
https://prism.oregonstate.edu
NOAA California-Nevada River Forecast Center (CNRFC) – basin-scale precipitation patterns
https://www.cnrfc.noaa.gov
Risk Interpretation Sources
U.S. Drought Monitor – drought classification and early-season signals
https://droughtmonitor.unl.edu
CAL FIRE – wildfire risk and fuel moisture context
https://www.fire.ca.gov
USDA Climate Hubs (California) – agricultural impact context
https://www.climatehubs.usda.gov/hubs/california
Key Assumptions & Notes
• Aggregation is based on county-average station observations; no area-weighted gridding was applied.
• 'Normal' refers to NOAA 1991–2020 climate normals for the same date range.
• Sierra Nevada counties are heavily influenced by snow-water equivalent and orographic effects.
• Risk implications are qualitative and intended for planning and briefing purposes.
Audaces fortuna iuvat
01-06-2026, 05:22 PM
(01-06-2026, 03:53 PM)Mick Wrote:(01-06-2026, 12:45 PM)Papa John Wrote: Mick, do you have a source for that regional risk summary?
I. Primary, Authoritative Data Sources (Observed Precipitation)
These are the core systems used by hydrologists, state agencies, and climate scientists.
1. NOAA / RCC ACIS (Applied Climate Information System)
- Website: https://www.rcc-acis.org
- API Endpoint: https://data.rcc-acis.org
- Maintained by: NOAA Regional Climate Centers
- Used for:
- Station-level daily precipitation
- County aggregation
- Season-to-date calculations
- Normals-to-date comparisons (via normal=1)
- Gold standard for county-level precipitation analysis
- Primary backbone of the compilation
<snip>
Wow, this is excellent and I'll be sure to share it with my son, who is studying atmospheric science and engineering in college!
But more to the point, can you share the link where you found that regional risk summary? The data seem to be at odds with what I found from the Santa Barbara County Public Works website.
If there's one thing people have learned in Berkeley, it's that you can't put "Cal football" and "Rose Bowl" in the same sentence. The words just don't fit. You'd be better off linking "covered wagons" with "Mars travel." (Bruce Jenkins, Cal '70, SF Chronicle, Nov. 11, 2017)
(01-06-2026, 03:53 PM)Mick Wrote:(01-06-2026, 12:45 PM)Papa John Wrote: Mick, do you have a source for that regional risk summary?
I. Primary, Authoritative Data Sources (Observed Precipitation)
These are the core systems used by hydrologists, state agencies, and climate scientists.
1. NOAA / RCC ACIS (Applied Climate Information System)
- Website: https://www.rcc-acis.org
- API Endpoint: https://data.rcc-acis.org
- Maintained by: NOAA Regional Climate Centers
- Used for:
- Station-level daily precipitation
- County aggregation
- Season-to-date calculations
- Normals-to-date comparisons (via normal=1)
- Gold standard for county-level precipitation analysis
- Primary backbone of the compilation
<snip>
Wow, this is excellent and I'll be sure to share it with my son, who is studying atmospheric science and engineering in college!
But more to the point, can you share the link where you found that regional risk summary? The data seem to be at odds with what I found from the Santa Barbara County Public Works website.
If there's one thing people have learned in Berkeley, it's that you can't put "Cal football" and "Rose Bowl" in the same sentence. The words just don't fit. You'd be better off linking "covered wagons" with "Mars travel." (Bruce Jenkins, Cal '70, SF Chronicle, Nov. 11, 2017)
01-07-2026, 06:30 AM
(01-06-2026, 05:22 PM)Papa John Wrote:(01-06-2026, 03:53 PM)Mick Wrote:(01-06-2026, 12:45 PM)Papa John Wrote: Mick, do you have a source for that regional risk summary?
I. Primary, Authoritative Data Sources (Observed Precipitation)
These are the core systems used by hydrologists, state agencies, and climate scientists.
1. NOAA / RCC ACIS (Applied Climate Information System)
- Website: https://www.rcc-acis.org
- API Endpoint: https://data.rcc-acis.org
- Maintained by: NOAA Regional Climate Centers
- Used for:
- Station-level daily precipitation
- County aggregation
- Season-to-date calculations
- Normals-to-date comparisons (via normal=1)
- Gold standard for county-level precipitation analysis
- Primary backbone of the compilation
<snip>
Wow, this is excellent and I'll be sure to share it with my son, who is studying atmospheric science and engineering in college!
But more to the point, can you share the link where you found that regional risk summary? The data seem to be at odds with what I found from the Santa Barbara County Public Works website.
I think the discrepancy lies in four areas:
1. The water year on Santa Barbara site is Sept. 1 to Aug. 31, which I believe is the old system. The current system is Oct. 1. to September 30.
2. I suspect they used a different base period to compute average annual rainfall. I used 1991 as my arbitrary starting point.
3. Their "as-of" cutoff is 8 a.m., mine was midnight.
4. They used their local proprietary sensors, I used ACIS collectors.
Audaces fortuna iuvat
(01-06-2026, 05:22 PM)Papa John Wrote:(01-06-2026, 03:53 PM)Mick Wrote:(01-06-2026, 12:45 PM)Papa John Wrote: Mick, do you have a source for that regional risk summary?
I. Primary, Authoritative Data Sources (Observed Precipitation)
These are the core systems used by hydrologists, state agencies, and climate scientists.
1. NOAA / RCC ACIS (Applied Climate Information System)
- Website: https://www.rcc-acis.org
- API Endpoint: https://data.rcc-acis.org
- Maintained by: NOAA Regional Climate Centers
- Used for:
- Station-level daily precipitation
- County aggregation
- Season-to-date calculations
- Normals-to-date comparisons (via normal=1)
- Gold standard for county-level precipitation analysis
- Primary backbone of the compilation
<snip>
Wow, this is excellent and I'll be sure to share it with my son, who is studying atmospheric science and engineering in college!
But more to the point, can you share the link where you found that regional risk summary? The data seem to be at odds with what I found from the Santa Barbara County Public Works website.
I think the discrepancy lies in four areas:
1. The water year on Santa Barbara site is Sept. 1 to Aug. 31, which I believe is the old system. The current system is Oct. 1. to September 30.
2. I suspect they used a different base period to compute average annual rainfall. I used 1991 as my arbitrary starting point.
3. Their "as-of" cutoff is 8 a.m., mine was midnight.
4. They used their local proprietary sensors, I used ACIS collectors.
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01-07-2026, 07:02 AM
I wouldn’t expect 1 to make much of a difference since waterfall between April (which is the end of the water year for the sierra snowpack) and October is pretty minimal.
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I wouldn’t expect 1 to make much of a difference since waterfall between April (which is the end of the water year for the sierra snowpack) and October is pretty minimal.
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For the first time in 25 years, California is now (apparently) completely drought-free, according to the U. S. Drought Monitor. Not a single square mile exists in a state of drought, first time since December of 2000. Seven of 12 major state-owned reservoirs are at 75% or higher capacity.
California completely drought-free for 1st time in 25 years after winter storms - ABC7 Los Angeles
Of course, it's a Los Angeles source, so...who are you going to believe, the source or your lying eyes?
2025 California Water Tracker - CalMatters
Key Numbers:
- 0% of the state's total area experiencing drought conditions. The previous drought lasted 1,337 days (Feb 11, 2020 to Oct. 10, 2023)
- 40% of State Water Project contracts will be met in 2025 as a result of updated forecasts following the wet winter season, allocations increased 35% from early December.
- 38% current snowpack levels compared to historical April 1 measurements as of January 8, 2026
- 1% compared to previous five-year average for today
- 155% average statewide precipitation compared to historical average for the water year, as of Jan 9, 2026
- 0 households reporting water shortage over the past 365 days
- 100% compared to previous 365 days
- 26% of ranked wells are at historic lows (wells at least 10-years old and measured past 18 months)
- 65% current systemwide reservoir capacity
- 7 of 12 major state-owned reservoirs at 75% or higher capacity
- -9.7% change in urban water use between January 2023 and 2020, down -6% overall from July 2021
California completely drought-free for 1st time in 25 years after winter storms - ABC7 Los Angeles
Of course, it's a Los Angeles source, so...who are you going to believe, the source or your lying eyes?
2025 California Water Tracker - CalMatters
Key Numbers:
- 0% of the state's total area experiencing drought conditions. The previous drought lasted 1,337 days (Feb 11, 2020 to Oct. 10, 2023)
- 40% of State Water Project contracts will be met in 2025 as a result of updated forecasts following the wet winter season, allocations increased 35% from early December.
- 38% current snowpack levels compared to historical April 1 measurements as of January 8, 2026
- 1% compared to previous five-year average for today
- 155% average statewide precipitation compared to historical average for the water year, as of Jan 9, 2026
- 0 households reporting water shortage over the past 365 days
- 100% compared to previous 365 days
- 26% of ranked wells are at historic lows (wells at least 10-years old and measured past 18 months)
- 65% current systemwide reservoir capacity
- 7 of 12 major state-owned reservoirs at 75% or higher capacity
- -9.7% change in urban water use between January 2023 and 2020, down -6% overall from July 2021
Audaces fortuna iuvat
For the first time in 25 years, California is now (apparently) completely drought-free, according to the U. S. Drought Monitor. Not a single square mile exists in a state of drought, first time since December of 2000. Seven of 12 major state-owned reservoirs are at 75% or higher capacity.
California completely drought-free for 1st time in 25 years after winter storms - ABC7 Los Angeles
Of course, it's a Los Angeles source, so...who are you going to believe, the source or your lying eyes?
2025 California Water Tracker - CalMatters
Key Numbers:
- 0% of the state's total area experiencing drought conditions. The previous drought lasted 1,337 days (Feb 11, 2020 to Oct. 10, 2023)
- 40% of State Water Project contracts will be met in 2025 as a result of updated forecasts following the wet winter season, allocations increased 35% from early December.
- 38% current snowpack levels compared to historical April 1 measurements as of January 8, 2026
- 1% compared to previous five-year average for today
- 155% average statewide precipitation compared to historical average for the water year, as of Jan 9, 2026
- 0 households reporting water shortage over the past 365 days
- 100% compared to previous 365 days
- 26% of ranked wells are at historic lows (wells at least 10-years old and measured past 18 months)
- 65% current systemwide reservoir capacity
- 7 of 12 major state-owned reservoirs at 75% or higher capacity
- -9.7% change in urban water use between January 2023 and 2020, down -6% overall from July 2021
California completely drought-free for 1st time in 25 years after winter storms - ABC7 Los Angeles
Of course, it's a Los Angeles source, so...who are you going to believe, the source or your lying eyes?
2025 California Water Tracker - CalMatters
Key Numbers:
- 0% of the state's total area experiencing drought conditions. The previous drought lasted 1,337 days (Feb 11, 2020 to Oct. 10, 2023)
- 40% of State Water Project contracts will be met in 2025 as a result of updated forecasts following the wet winter season, allocations increased 35% from early December.
- 38% current snowpack levels compared to historical April 1 measurements as of January 8, 2026
- 1% compared to previous five-year average for today
- 155% average statewide precipitation compared to historical average for the water year, as of Jan 9, 2026
- 0 households reporting water shortage over the past 365 days
- 100% compared to previous 365 days
- 26% of ranked wells are at historic lows (wells at least 10-years old and measured past 18 months)
- 65% current systemwide reservoir capacity
- 7 of 12 major state-owned reservoirs at 75% or higher capacity
- -9.7% change in urban water use between January 2023 and 2020, down -6% overall from July 2021
Audaces fortuna iuvat
01-10-2026, 12:52 PM
I found this article sobering. Both in terms of short-term potential impact on various states, and the long-term issue
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-...24ea&ei=83
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-...24ea&ei=83
DIE LUFT DER FREIHEIT WEHT
I found this article sobering. Both in terms of short-term potential impact on various states, and the long-term issue
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-...24ea&ei=83
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-...24ea&ei=83
DIE LUFT DER FREIHEIT WEHT
(01-06-2026, 03:49 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Lake Shasta gained 30 feet with the latest storm!
https://www.sfchronicle.com/california/a...279869.php
BC
That's cool. Now shows a 36 foot gain. It is 77% full, 129% of historical average.
Oroville has jumped 69 feet...73% full, 134% of historic average. In one day, it added the equivalent of a full Crystal Springs Reservoir.
Sierra Snowpack was at 18% of normal on December 16. On Monday, January 5, it was at 90% of normal.
California's largest reservoir rises 36 feet as rains boost water supply statewide
San Luis is 70% full, Los Vaqueros is 90% full, Cachuma is 100% full, spilled on Monday. Diamond Valley is 94% full. Loch Lomond hit 100% full, sent water down the spillway. EBMUD's seven reservoirs were 82% full on Monday. Nine reservoirs in Santa Clara Valley were 50% full. Anderson is essentially empty, as it is undergoing construction to rebuild its dam.
Doesn't look like the Delta Conveyance Project (water tunnel) is going to happen. Proponents said $20.1 billion, opponents said 3x to 5x that number.
Newsom's signature water tunnel is set back by California court ruling
Current climate modeling is not capturing all of the long-term changes affecting rainfall. Yikes...
Meteorologists issue warnings over future of US drinking water
Audaces fortuna iuvat
(01-06-2026, 03:49 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Lake Shasta gained 30 feet with the latest storm!
https://www.sfchronicle.com/california/a...279869.php
BC
That's cool. Now shows a 36 foot gain. It is 77% full, 129% of historical average.
Oroville has jumped 69 feet...73% full, 134% of historic average. In one day, it added the equivalent of a full Crystal Springs Reservoir.
Sierra Snowpack was at 18% of normal on December 16. On Monday, January 5, it was at 90% of normal.
California's largest reservoir rises 36 feet as rains boost water supply statewide
San Luis is 70% full, Los Vaqueros is 90% full, Cachuma is 100% full, spilled on Monday. Diamond Valley is 94% full. Loch Lomond hit 100% full, sent water down the spillway. EBMUD's seven reservoirs were 82% full on Monday. Nine reservoirs in Santa Clara Valley were 50% full. Anderson is essentially empty, as it is undergoing construction to rebuild its dam.
Doesn't look like the Delta Conveyance Project (water tunnel) is going to happen. Proponents said $20.1 billion, opponents said 3x to 5x that number.
Newsom's signature water tunnel is set back by California court ruling
Current climate modeling is not capturing all of the long-term changes affecting rainfall. Yikes...
Meteorologists issue warnings over future of US drinking water
Audaces fortuna iuvat
01-15-2026, 09:08 AM
(07-25-2025, 01:12 PM)Mick Wrote: Not a water issue per se, but as a result of three successive wet winters, Highway 1 south at Regents Slide (27 miles north of the Monterey County/San Luis Obispo County border) not only remains closed (it has been closed since 2023) but it will be two months before CalTrans will even hazard a guess as to when they can give an estimate to the full opening of southbound Highway 1. There had been earlier road closures at Paul's Slide and Dolan Point (20 miles north of SLO county line), so the PCH hasn't been open for quite a while.
Two of the great joys of my life were driving south on the PCH all the way from San Francisco to San Diego, once with each of my sons. Haven't been able to do it in years. My guess is no one will be able to do it for a few more years.
Here's the photo of the Regent slide not long after it occurred:
When will Hwy. 1 reopen in Big Sur? See latest update | San Luis Obispo Tribune
Highway 1 is officially open early! Gov. Newsom announced that CalTrans opened highway 1 at noon yesterday, January 14. You can once again drive from Big Sur to Cambria. In-depth story at link below:
Governor Newsom announces early reopening of Highway 1 through Big Sur | Governor of California
New before and after photo:
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(07-25-2025, 01:12 PM)Mick Wrote: Not a water issue per se, but as a result of three successive wet winters, Highway 1 south at Regents Slide (27 miles north of the Monterey County/San Luis Obispo County border) not only remains closed (it has been closed since 2023) but it will be two months before CalTrans will even hazard a guess as to when they can give an estimate to the full opening of southbound Highway 1. There had been earlier road closures at Paul's Slide and Dolan Point (20 miles north of SLO county line), so the PCH hasn't been open for quite a while.
Two of the great joys of my life were driving south on the PCH all the way from San Francisco to San Diego, once with each of my sons. Haven't been able to do it in years. My guess is no one will be able to do it for a few more years.
Here's the photo of the Regent slide not long after it occurred:
When will Hwy. 1 reopen in Big Sur? See latest update | San Luis Obispo Tribune
Highway 1 is officially open early! Gov. Newsom announced that CalTrans opened highway 1 at noon yesterday, January 14. You can once again drive from Big Sur to Cambria. In-depth story at link below:
Governor Newsom announces early reopening of Highway 1 through Big Sur | Governor of California
New before and after photo:
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