06-23-2026, 01:40 PM
The new 5 in 5 rule
06-23-2026, 02:49 PM
sounds good to me. college sports should be for college-age kids.
Cal delenda est
06-23-2026, 06:43 PM
(06-23-2026, 01:40 PM)BobK Wrote: https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...asketball/
Just passed.
how long until someone sues????
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
(06-23-2026, 01:40 PM)BobK Wrote: https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...asketball/
Just passed.
how long until someone sues????
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
06-24-2026, 07:14 AM
I hope this stems the redshirting of kids to make them more competitive in sports. It seems like over half the varsity athletes at private schools in New England got reclassed. It's one of the reasons I want to keep my son in public school.
One of my son's BFF's father is a fellow immigrant kid that grew up in England. He asked me about this phenomenon "Why do people do this? It's so shameful to be held back." My reply "I imagine rich people in England are like the ones here in this regard. They have no shame.
Getting held back a year is one of the best examples of horse shoe theory when it comes to the rich and the poor as in "classy if rich, trashy if poor".
One of my son's BFF's father is a fellow immigrant kid that grew up in England. He asked me about this phenomenon "Why do people do this? It's so shameful to be held back." My reply "I imagine rich people in England are like the ones here in this regard. They have no shame.
Getting held back a year is one of the best examples of horse shoe theory when it comes to the rich and the poor as in "classy if rich, trashy if poor".
I hope this stems the redshirting of kids to make them more competitive in sports. It seems like over half the varsity athletes at private schools in New England got reclassed. It's one of the reasons I want to keep my son in public school.
One of my son's BFF's father is a fellow immigrant kid that grew up in England. He asked me about this phenomenon "Why do people do this? It's so shameful to be held back." My reply "I imagine rich people in England are like the ones here in this regard. They have no shame.
Getting held back a year is one of the best examples of horse shoe theory when it comes to the rich and the poor as in "classy if rich, trashy if poor".
One of my son's BFF's father is a fellow immigrant kid that grew up in England. He asked me about this phenomenon "Why do people do this? It's so shameful to be held back." My reply "I imagine rich people in England are like the ones here in this regard. They have no shame.
Getting held back a year is one of the best examples of horse shoe theory when it comes to the rich and the poor as in "classy if rich, trashy if poor".
06-25-2026, 07:27 AM
(06-24-2026, 07:14 AM)Bruce Wang Wrote: I hope this stems the redshirting of kids to make them more competitive in sports. It seems like over half the varsity athletes at private schools in New England got reclassed. It's one of the reasons I want to keep my son in public school.
One of my son's BFF's father is a fellow immigrant kid that grew up in England. He asked me about this phenomenon "Why do people do this? It's so shameful to be held back." My reply "I imagine rich people in England are like the ones here in this regard. They have no shame.
Getting held back a year is one of the best examples of horse shoe theory when it comes to the rich and the poor as in "classy if rich, trashy if poor".
Adam Corolla does a bit on that: List of Rich Man/Poor Man examples? : r/AdamCarolla
Haven't been held back, but both my father-in-law (Stanford BS '57, MS '59, basketball player and NASA scientist) and I were skipped a grade in grade school. We both agreed that if there one "do over" in life we could have, it would be to take that decision back. Tough being the youngest boy in a class.
Audaces fortuna iuvat
(06-24-2026, 07:14 AM)Bruce Wang Wrote: I hope this stems the redshirting of kids to make them more competitive in sports. It seems like over half the varsity athletes at private schools in New England got reclassed. It's one of the reasons I want to keep my son in public school.
One of my son's BFF's father is a fellow immigrant kid that grew up in England. He asked me about this phenomenon "Why do people do this? It's so shameful to be held back." My reply "I imagine rich people in England are like the ones here in this regard. They have no shame.
Getting held back a year is one of the best examples of horse shoe theory when it comes to the rich and the poor as in "classy if rich, trashy if poor".
Adam Corolla does a bit on that: List of Rich Man/Poor Man examples? : r/AdamCarolla
Haven't been held back, but both my father-in-law (Stanford BS '57, MS '59, basketball player and NASA scientist) and I were skipped a grade in grade school. We both agreed that if there one "do over" in life we could have, it would be to take that decision back. Tough being the youngest boy in a class.
Audaces fortuna iuvat
06-25-2026, 08:10 AM
(06-23-2026, 06:43 PM)82lsju Wrote:(06-23-2026, 01:40 PM)BobK Wrote: https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...asketball/
Just passed.
how long until someone sues????
Not quite a day:
Quote: Less than 24 hours after the NCAA Division I cabinet approved a monumental change in eligibility rules, a group of 15 college basketball players filed a lawsuit in an Ohio state court claiming the new age-based model unfairly shuts them out of further competition.
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor...class-2022
(06-23-2026, 06:43 PM)82lsju Wrote:(06-23-2026, 01:40 PM)BobK Wrote: https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...asketball/
Just passed.
how long until someone sues????
Not quite a day:
Quote: Less than 24 hours after the NCAA Division I cabinet approved a monumental change in eligibility rules, a group of 15 college basketball players filed a lawsuit in an Ohio state court claiming the new age-based model unfairly shuts them out of further competition.
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor...class-2022
06-25-2026, 12:08 PM
(06-25-2026, 07:27 AM)Mick Wrote: Haven't been held back, but both my father-in-law (Stanford BS '57, MS '59, basketball player and NASA scientist) and I were skipped a grade in grade school. We both agreed that if there one "do over" in life we could have, it would be to take that decision back. Tough being the youngest boy in a class.Interesting. I skipped 4th grade, and while I agree that being the youngest boy in the class has down sides for me it was definitely on the whole a positive experience. I guess YMMV.
(06-25-2026, 07:27 AM)Mick Wrote: Haven't been held back, but both my father-in-law (Stanford BS '57, MS '59, basketball player and NASA scientist) and I were skipped a grade in grade school. We both agreed that if there one "do over" in life we could have, it would be to take that decision back. Tough being the youngest boy in a class.Interesting. I skipped 4th grade, and while I agree that being the youngest boy in the class has down sides for me it was definitely on the whole a positive experience. I guess YMMV.
06-25-2026, 12:27 PM
(06-25-2026, 12:08 PM)Goose Wrote:(06-25-2026, 07:27 AM)Mick Wrote: Haven't been held back, but both my father-in-law (Stanford BS '57, MS '59, basketball player and NASA scientist) and I were skipped a grade in grade school. We both agreed that if there one "do over" in life we could have, it would be to take that decision back. Tough being the youngest boy in a class.Interesting. I skipped 4th grade, and while I agree that being the youngest boy in the class has down sides for me it was definitely on the whole a positive experience. I guess YMMV.
I was the youngest in my class, too! But I skipped kindergarten and I guess I was used to always being the youngest. That is, until I got to the Farm and was only the third-youngest freshman in my dorm. And it was a four-year dorm, so there were only about 25 of us freshmen.
(06-25-2026, 12:08 PM)Goose Wrote:(06-25-2026, 07:27 AM)Mick Wrote: Haven't been held back, but both my father-in-law (Stanford BS '57, MS '59, basketball player and NASA scientist) and I were skipped a grade in grade school. We both agreed that if there one "do over" in life we could have, it would be to take that decision back. Tough being the youngest boy in a class.Interesting. I skipped 4th grade, and while I agree that being the youngest boy in the class has down sides for me it was definitely on the whole a positive experience. I guess YMMV.
I was the youngest in my class, too! But I skipped kindergarten and I guess I was used to always being the youngest. That is, until I got to the Farm and was only the third-youngest freshman in my dorm. And it was a four-year dorm, so there were only about 25 of us freshmen.
06-25-2026, 01:20 PM
(06-25-2026, 12:27 PM)Canalejas Wrote:(06-25-2026, 12:08 PM)Goose Wrote:(06-25-2026, 07:27 AM)Mick Wrote: Haven't been held back, but both my father-in-law (Stanford BS '57, MS '59, basketball player and NASA scientist) and I were skipped a grade in grade school. We both agreed that if there one "do over" in life we could have, it would be to take that decision back. Tough being the youngest boy in a class.Interesting. I skipped 4th grade, and while I agree that being the youngest boy in the class has down sides for me it was definitely on the whole a positive experience. I guess YMMV.
I was the youngest in my class, too! But I skipped kindergarten and I guess I was used to always being the youngest. That is, until I got to the Farm and was only the third-youngest freshman in my dorm. And it was a four-year dorm, so there were only about 25 of us freshmen.
When I was in fourth grade, my Mom remarried and we moved to a new school. They did a bunch of testing that my old school never did and told us that they wanted to move me to sixth grade. I was already the second smallest boy in my grade and had a sister and new step-brother in fifth grade. My Mom never even finished high school, but she instinctively knew that jumping up two grades would not be good for me. She told them to give me extra work and keep me where I was. I am very thankful she did.
Cheers,
Pete F.
(06-25-2026, 12:27 PM)Canalejas Wrote:(06-25-2026, 12:08 PM)Goose Wrote:(06-25-2026, 07:27 AM)Mick Wrote: Haven't been held back, but both my father-in-law (Stanford BS '57, MS '59, basketball player and NASA scientist) and I were skipped a grade in grade school. We both agreed that if there one "do over" in life we could have, it would be to take that decision back. Tough being the youngest boy in a class.Interesting. I skipped 4th grade, and while I agree that being the youngest boy in the class has down sides for me it was definitely on the whole a positive experience. I guess YMMV.
I was the youngest in my class, too! But I skipped kindergarten and I guess I was used to always being the youngest. That is, until I got to the Farm and was only the third-youngest freshman in my dorm. And it was a four-year dorm, so there were only about 25 of us freshmen.
When I was in fourth grade, my Mom remarried and we moved to a new school. They did a bunch of testing that my old school never did and told us that they wanted to move me to sixth grade. I was already the second smallest boy in my grade and had a sister and new step-brother in fifth grade. My Mom never even finished high school, but she instinctively knew that jumping up two grades would not be good for me. She told them to give me extra work and keep me where I was. I am very thankful she did.
Cheers,
Pete F.
06-25-2026, 01:21 PM
I was one of the younger students in my class (graduated HS at 17 and Stanford at 21) and was frequently one of the shortest people amongst my classmates growing up. Thankfully, with time, I grew to be of average height, but I did not like being one of the smaller boys.
I was one of the younger students in my class (graduated HS at 17 and Stanford at 21) and was frequently one of the shortest people amongst my classmates growing up. Thankfully, with time, I grew to be of average height, but I did not like being one of the smaller boys.
It's a real tradeoff between having a better early developmental experience (with peers) and having "more good" years later in life with the benefit of compounded earlier opportunities in life.
I've also heard a bunch about reclassed (or postgrad) students who basically spend a prep school gap year improving athletically/academically for collegiate athletics recruitment. The service academies have prep schools for this purpose too.
In other nations, some high school grads go immediately into elite sport development pipelines for years before applying to universities for their undergraduate degree.
I'm a bit sad that this begins to take away college athletic opportunities away from non-trad students. I believe there isn't any one prescribed path to college.
Life is what you make of it. All of this comes back to the perversely outsized incentives of collegiate athletics revenue that are skewing the field. The love of money is the root of all evil, some say.
Point of information: the lawsuit is being filed by athletes who would be shut out of a fifth year (under the new rules) because they are one year too old. So they're suing in order to get a fifth year of eligibility because they have used up all four years of eligibility as of spring '26.
No, it's the delayed implementation of the new model that "unfairly" shuts them out of further competition, and they would have liked to have benefited from the new model right away.
I've also heard a bunch about reclassed (or postgrad) students who basically spend a prep school gap year improving athletically/academically for collegiate athletics recruitment. The service academies have prep schools for this purpose too.
In other nations, some high school grads go immediately into elite sport development pipelines for years before applying to universities for their undergraduate degree.
I'm a bit sad that this begins to take away college athletic opportunities away from non-trad students. I believe there isn't any one prescribed path to college.
Life is what you make of it. All of this comes back to the perversely outsized incentives of collegiate athletics revenue that are skewing the field. The love of money is the root of all evil, some say.
(06-25-2026, 08:10 AM)needle Wrote:(06-23-2026, 06:43 PM)82lsju Wrote:(06-23-2026, 01:40 PM)BobK Wrote: https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...asketball/
Just passed.
how long until someone sues????
Not quite a day:
Quote: Less than 24 hours after the NCAA Division I cabinet approved a monumental change in eligibility rules, a group of 15 college basketball players filed a lawsuit in an Ohio state court claiming the new age-based model unfairly shuts them out of further competition.
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor...class-2022
Point of information: the lawsuit is being filed by athletes who would be shut out of a fifth year (under the new rules) because they are one year too old. So they're suing in order to get a fifth year of eligibility because they have used up all four years of eligibility as of spring '26.
Quote:Less than 24 hours after the NCAA Division I cabinet approved a monumental change in eligibility rules, a group of 15 college basketball players filed a lawsuit in an Ohio state court claiming the new age-based model unfairly shuts them out of further competition.
No, it's the delayed implementation of the new model that "unfairly" shuts them out of further competition, and they would have liked to have benefited from the new model right away.
(This post was last modified: 06-25-2026, 01:58 PM by fullmetal.)
It's a real tradeoff between having a better early developmental experience (with peers) and having "more good" years later in life with the benefit of compounded earlier opportunities in life.
I've also heard a bunch about reclassed (or postgrad) students who basically spend a prep school gap year improving athletically/academically for collegiate athletics recruitment. The service academies have prep schools for this purpose too.
In other nations, some high school grads go immediately into elite sport development pipelines for years before applying to universities for their undergraduate degree.
I'm a bit sad that this begins to take away college athletic opportunities away from non-trad students. I believe there isn't any one prescribed path to college.
Life is what you make of it. All of this comes back to the perversely outsized incentives of collegiate athletics revenue that are skewing the field. The love of money is the root of all evil, some say.
Point of information: the lawsuit is being filed by athletes who would be shut out of a fifth year (under the new rules) because they are one year too old. So they're suing in order to get a fifth year of eligibility because they have used up all four years of eligibility as of spring '26.
No, it's the delayed implementation of the new model that "unfairly" shuts them out of further competition, and they would have liked to have benefited from the new model right away.
I've also heard a bunch about reclassed (or postgrad) students who basically spend a prep school gap year improving athletically/academically for collegiate athletics recruitment. The service academies have prep schools for this purpose too.
In other nations, some high school grads go immediately into elite sport development pipelines for years before applying to universities for their undergraduate degree.
I'm a bit sad that this begins to take away college athletic opportunities away from non-trad students. I believe there isn't any one prescribed path to college.
Life is what you make of it. All of this comes back to the perversely outsized incentives of collegiate athletics revenue that are skewing the field. The love of money is the root of all evil, some say.
(06-25-2026, 08:10 AM)needle Wrote:(06-23-2026, 06:43 PM)82lsju Wrote:(06-23-2026, 01:40 PM)BobK Wrote: https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...asketball/
Just passed.
how long until someone sues????
Not quite a day:
Quote: Less than 24 hours after the NCAA Division I cabinet approved a monumental change in eligibility rules, a group of 15 college basketball players filed a lawsuit in an Ohio state court claiming the new age-based model unfairly shuts them out of further competition.
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor...class-2022
Point of information: the lawsuit is being filed by athletes who would be shut out of a fifth year (under the new rules) because they are one year too old. So they're suing in order to get a fifth year of eligibility because they have used up all four years of eligibility as of spring '26.
Quote:Less than 24 hours after the NCAA Division I cabinet approved a monumental change in eligibility rules, a group of 15 college basketball players filed a lawsuit in an Ohio state court claiming the new age-based model unfairly shuts them out of further competition.
No, it's the delayed implementation of the new model that "unfairly" shuts them out of further competition, and they would have liked to have benefited from the new model right away.
06-25-2026, 02:43 PM
(06-25-2026, 01:21 PM)PVTree Wrote: I was one of the younger students in my class (graduated HS at 17 and Stanford at 21) and was frequently one of the shortest people amongst my classmates growing up. Thankfully, with time, I grew to be of average height, but I did not like being one of the smaller boys.
I skipped second grade and entered Stanford at 17 1/2. But I made up for it by taking 5 years to graduate (I did earn two completely unrelated degrees during that time).
If there's one thing people have learned in Berkeley, it's that you can't put "Cal football" and "Rose Bowl" in the same sentence. The words just don't fit. You'd be better off linking "covered wagons" with "Mars travel." (Bruce Jenkins, Cal '70, SF Chronicle, Nov. 11, 2017)
(06-25-2026, 01:21 PM)PVTree Wrote: I was one of the younger students in my class (graduated HS at 17 and Stanford at 21) and was frequently one of the shortest people amongst my classmates growing up. Thankfully, with time, I grew to be of average height, but I did not like being one of the smaller boys.
I skipped second grade and entered Stanford at 17 1/2. But I made up for it by taking 5 years to graduate (I did earn two completely unrelated degrees during that time).
If there's one thing people have learned in Berkeley, it's that you can't put "Cal football" and "Rose Bowl" in the same sentence. The words just don't fit. You'd be better off linking "covered wagons" with "Mars travel." (Bruce Jenkins, Cal '70, SF Chronicle, Nov. 11, 2017)
06-25-2026, 05:51 PM
(06-23-2026, 06:43 PM)82lsju Wrote:Incoming in 5, …, 4, …, 3, …(06-23-2026, 01:40 PM)BobK Wrote: https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...asketball/
Just passed.
how long until someone sues????
(06-23-2026, 06:43 PM)82lsju Wrote:Incoming in 5, …, 4, …, 3, …(06-23-2026, 01:40 PM)BobK Wrote: https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...asketball/
Just passed.
how long until someone sues????
06-25-2026, 06:52 PM
An Auburn men's basketball player drafted at #57 by the LA Clippers this week will play at Auburn next season. The Clippers still have his player's rights when he leaves Auburn.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...urn-season
This is an interesting (and perhaps good) development for those who want to see players earn their degrees without forfeiting professional opportunites, though injury risk is always an issue.
Quote:Since Ngoy is turning 22 this summer, he was automatically eligible for the NBA draft and, therefore, can maintain his college eligibility despite being selected.
...
The Clippers plan to treat Ngoy as a draft-and-stash player, sources told ESPN, and will own his rights after he's done at Auburn. The draft-and-stash practice is usually reserved for international players selected in the NBA draft and then kept overseas.
...
Assuming Ngoy plays at Auburn, he'll be considered the first player in the modern era to opt to play in college immediately after being drafted. The Knicks owned the rights to James Nnaji when he played at Baylor last season, but he was drafted in 2023 and remained overseas until enrolling at Baylor.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...urn-season
This is an interesting (and perhaps good) development for those who want to see players earn their degrees without forfeiting professional opportunites, though injury risk is always an issue.
An Auburn men's basketball player drafted at #57 by the LA Clippers this week will play at Auburn next season. The Clippers still have his player's rights when he leaves Auburn.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...urn-season
This is an interesting (and perhaps good) development for those who want to see players earn their degrees without forfeiting professional opportunites, though injury risk is always an issue.
Quote:Since Ngoy is turning 22 this summer, he was automatically eligible for the NBA draft and, therefore, can maintain his college eligibility despite being selected.
...
The Clippers plan to treat Ngoy as a draft-and-stash player, sources told ESPN, and will own his rights after he's done at Auburn. The draft-and-stash practice is usually reserved for international players selected in the NBA draft and then kept overseas.
...
Assuming Ngoy plays at Auburn, he'll be considered the first player in the modern era to opt to play in college immediately after being drafted. The Knicks owned the rights to James Nnaji when he played at Baylor last season, but he was drafted in 2023 and remained overseas until enrolling at Baylor.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...urn-season
This is an interesting (and perhaps good) development for those who want to see players earn their degrees without forfeiting professional opportunites, though injury risk is always an issue.
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