05-11-2013, 01:03 PM
In discussions with a D-league team to become their head coach: https://twitter.com/StanfordRivals/statu...7963109378
But we were so close! Just ask Muir!
But we were so close! Just ask Muir!
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Mark Madsen showing a keen sense of when the leaving's good
Mark Madsen showing a keen sense of when the leaving's good
In discussions with a D-league team to become their head coach: https://twitter.com/StanfordRivals/statu...7963109378
But we were so close! Just ask Muir!
But we were so close! Just ask Muir!
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05-11-2013, 01:20 PM
Odd. I thought he seemed suited to the college game. My guess is that this move would be a step toward a possible front office job down the road. I don't see him wanting to run around the D-league and then parlay it into an NBA assistant life. I thought he was trying to be basketball's David Shaw, and I thought he had a good shot at that (lack of current mentor notwithstanding).Â
Odd. I thought he seemed suited to the college game. My guess is that this move would be a step toward a possible front office job down the road. I don't see him wanting to run around the D-league and then parlay it into an NBA assistant life. I thought he was trying to be basketball's David Shaw, and I thought he had a good shot at that (lack of current mentor notwithstanding).Â
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05-11-2013, 01:34 PM
Or whatever it is that Johnny Dawkins is running these days. Madsen surely has enough sense of self to know that a chance to coach at Stanford isn't the only path in life. And even if he'd LOVE to coach at Stanford, his chances of being promoted if Dawkins is let go are slim to none. Mostly none. So he sets off for other opportunities to prove himself. At very least the scent of success or failure will be his own, not somebody else's.
Or whatever it is that Johnny Dawkins is running these days. Madsen surely has enough sense of self to know that a chance to coach at Stanford isn't the only path in life. And even if he'd LOVE to coach at Stanford, his chances of being promoted if Dawkins is let go are slim to none. Mostly none. So he sets off for other opportunities to prove himself. At very least the scent of success or failure will be his own, not somebody else's.
05-11-2013, 01:35 PM
(05-11-2013, 01:03 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:In discussions with a D-league team to become their head coach: https://twitter.com/StanfordRivals/statu...7963109378
But we were so close! Just ask Muir!
No one ever got a silver medal trying for it.
(05-11-2013, 01:03 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:In discussions with a D-league team to become their head coach: https://twitter.com/StanfordRivals/statu...7963109378
But we were so close! Just ask Muir!
No one ever got a silver medal trying for it.
05-11-2013, 01:48 PM
(05-11-2013, 01:34 PM)Redrum link Wrote:So he sets off for other opportunities to prove himself. At very least the scent of success or failure will be his own, not somebody else's.
This is why I think the move is so damning. I can't think of an example of a coach going to D-League and moving up, whether to NBA assistant, college coach, front office, whatever. The reason, of course, is that you aren't trying to win in D-League. You're trying to develop players, a task that often overlaps but sometimes diverges with winning. But of course at other positions the entire point is winning, so all you've done is amass experience proving how much not-winning you can accomplish.
I'm sure there's one example out there; I just can't think of one. It's just a pure vote of no confidence.
(05-11-2013, 01:34 PM)Redrum link Wrote:So he sets off for other opportunities to prove himself. At very least the scent of success or failure will be his own, not somebody else's.
This is why I think the move is so damning. I can't think of an example of a coach going to D-League and moving up, whether to NBA assistant, college coach, front office, whatever. The reason, of course, is that you aren't trying to win in D-League. You're trying to develop players, a task that often overlaps but sometimes diverges with winning. But of course at other positions the entire point is winning, so all you've done is amass experience proving how much not-winning you can accomplish.
I'm sure there's one example out there; I just can't think of one. It's just a pure vote of no confidence.
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05-11-2013, 01:53 PM
I couldn't think of one moving up either, but it's actually happened frequently at the assistant level (see below link). The NBA assistant life seems miserable to me (vs. Pac 12) but maybe for a bachelor it would be fun. I wish him the best. Â
http://www.nba.com/dleague/news/coaching_callups.html
http://www.nba.com/dleague/news/coaching_callups.html
I couldn't think of one moving up either, but it's actually happened frequently at the assistant level (see below link). The NBA assistant life seems miserable to me (vs. Pac 12) but maybe for a bachelor it would be fun. I wish him the best. Â
http://www.nba.com/dleague/news/coaching_callups.html
http://www.nba.com/dleague/news/coaching_callups.html
05-11-2013, 03:09 PM
Mark got his MBA with thoughts of being an NBA GM. I think he understands his career path better than others.  A shame if he leaves though. Would be a big loss.
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05-11-2013, 06:04 PM
Mike Brown coached in the D-League as did Ariz. St coach Musselman. Reggie Theus was in the league also, but I forget where he is coaching. The old CBA was the Pre D-League which is where Phil Jackson received his coaching start. He made out OK. I would think Mark would ask his old coach his thoughts on his coaching options.
Mike Brown coached in the D-League as did Ariz. St coach Musselman. Reggie Theus was in the league also, but I forget where he is coaching. The old CBA was the Pre D-League which is where Phil Jackson received his coaching start. He made out OK. I would think Mark would ask his old coach his thoughts on his coaching options.
05-12-2013, 08:06 AM
(05-11-2013, 01:48 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:you aren't trying to win in D-League. You're trying to develop players, a task that often overlaps but sometimes diverges with winning. But of course at other positions the entire point is winning, so all you've done is amass experience proving how much not-winning you can accomplish.
The purpose of D-League is player development ... teaching ... coincidentally, this is what college coaches do at places that value the true definition of student-athlete ... places like Stanford. Maybe Madsen is looking for a chance to prove he can be a teacher-coach, something he isn't getting a chance to do under Stanford's current basketball regime that seems to be failing miserably in the area of player development.
"To the press alone, checkered as it is with abuses, the world is indebted for all the triumphs which have been gained by reason and humanity over error and oppression." ~ James Madison
(05-11-2013, 01:48 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:you aren't trying to win in D-League. You're trying to develop players, a task that often overlaps but sometimes diverges with winning. But of course at other positions the entire point is winning, so all you've done is amass experience proving how much not-winning you can accomplish.
The purpose of D-League is player development ... teaching ... coincidentally, this is what college coaches do at places that value the true definition of student-athlete ... places like Stanford. Maybe Madsen is looking for a chance to prove he can be a teacher-coach, something he isn't getting a chance to do under Stanford's current basketball regime that seems to be failing miserably in the area of player development.
"To the press alone, checkered as it is with abuses, the world is indebted for all the triumphs which have been gained by reason and humanity over error and oppression." ~ James Madison
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05-14-2013, 08:26 AM
I for one will never question Maddog's intentions or forethought:
- He has an NBA championship (yes, he rode pine but look for articles about how much respect Kobe & Shaq had for him)
- His coaching mentor is the GOAT (Phil Jackson)
- He has a Stanford BA and MBA
- He has already demonstrated that he can develop talent (Heustis & Powell)
He's a great representative of the University and the Ath Dept - in sharp contrast to Richard Sherman. I wish him nothing but the best and fully expect him to be on an NBA sideline within 5 years.
- He has an NBA championship (yes, he rode pine but look for articles about how much respect Kobe & Shaq had for him)
- His coaching mentor is the GOAT (Phil Jackson)
- He has a Stanford BA and MBA
- He has already demonstrated that he can develop talent (Heustis & Powell)
He's a great representative of the University and the Ath Dept - in sharp contrast to Richard Sherman. I wish him nothing but the best and fully expect him to be on an NBA sideline within 5 years.
I for one will never question Maddog's intentions or forethought:
- He has an NBA championship (yes, he rode pine but look for articles about how much respect Kobe & Shaq had for him)
- His coaching mentor is the GOAT (Phil Jackson)
- He has a Stanford BA and MBA
- He has already demonstrated that he can develop talent (Heustis & Powell)
He's a great representative of the University and the Ath Dept - in sharp contrast to Richard Sherman. I wish him nothing but the best and fully expect him to be on an NBA sideline within 5 years.
- He has an NBA championship (yes, he rode pine but look for articles about how much respect Kobe & Shaq had for him)
- His coaching mentor is the GOAT (Phil Jackson)
- He has a Stanford BA and MBA
- He has already demonstrated that he can develop talent (Heustis & Powell)
He's a great representative of the University and the Ath Dept - in sharp contrast to Richard Sherman. I wish him nothing but the best and fully expect him to be on an NBA sideline within 5 years.
05-15-2013, 12:16 AM
According to GoStanford.com, he will be announced as the new head coach of the Los Angeles D-fenders tomorrow. Whoever they are.
05-15-2013, 08:26 AM
Not a bad place to be. He gets a chance to coach, but flies under the Laker drama that is sure to affect the team next year. If he succeeds, he can be a bright spot, if he fails, no one really cares while the Lakers fix their bigger issues.
Madsen also can look at Reveno to see how loyalty, a Stanford MBA and years of developing NBA talent can be rewarded in this business.
Madsen also can look at Reveno to see how loyalty, a Stanford MBA and years of developing NBA talent can be rewarded in this business.
Not a bad place to be. He gets a chance to coach, but flies under the Laker drama that is sure to affect the team next year. If he succeeds, he can be a bright spot, if he fails, no one really cares while the Lakers fix their bigger issues.
Madsen also can look at Reveno to see how loyalty, a Stanford MBA and years of developing NBA talent can be rewarded in this business.
Madsen also can look at Reveno to see how loyalty, a Stanford MBA and years of developing NBA talent can be rewarded in this business.
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