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Sunday morning thoughts - Hawaii - msqueri - 08-24-2025

1. What a deflating loss. It wasn't surprising - indeed a 23-20 Hawaii win is very close to the 26-24 or 26-23 Hawaii win Vegas predicted - but it stung big-time considering how much hope the program and its fans have held out that the offseason changed the character of our team. We really hoped against hope that merely adding Luck and Reich would change everything. Sadly it turns out that still having a deeply flawed roster and essentially running back Taylor Era Year 3 minus the head man did not fundamentally change anything. Maybe/hopefully that's a premature conclusion but the balance of evidence from yesterday is sobering in the extent to which it suggests this is more or less the same team that will again be one of the worst teams in the country. Deflating may not be a strong enough word for staring down the barrel of wasting yet another year. As we have said all too many times in recent years, hopefully this is rock bottom.

2. Beyond just the fact of losing to a Group of Five team and giving them their first power conference win since 2019, this was dispiriting because we weren't even the better team. We scored more than a point less per drive than they did, gained almost a yard less per play, and were gifted over a third of our total points via an extremely boneheaded special teams play followed by a defensive touchdown set up by the duress caused by that gaffe. We shot ourselves in the foot with a very damaging unsportsmanlike conduct but on balance one can make a fair case Hawaii was hurt even more by penalties, and certainly the number and yardage of penalties were even and costly for both teams. In terms of luck we got the fumble to go our way and provide seven points, a five point swing from merely a bounce of the ball. In terms of injuries they had a hobbled QB much of the game. [To those trying to find silver linings in the trenches, four sacks by the defense is nice.....but we had six last time we played Hawaii; giving up one sack isn't bad.....but we gave up zero last time we played them.] It sucks to say it but the right team won, which is really depressing considering this is supposed to be our worst opponent. It would be surprising at this point for us to avoid once again having one of the worst teams in Stanford history.

3. The offense was especially bad. Our 1.44 points per non-garbage drive (excluding the end of the first half) looks really bad compared to Hawaii giving up 2.62 points per drive last year and only five defenses in the country last year being as stingy on a per game basis as we made Hawaii look. Our 3.92 yards per play is the exact same we started last season with against TCU (a much better defense of course) and almost a yard less than last year's average. In the last decade of Hawaii games, no power conference offense has done as badly, only three Group of Five offenses have, and five FCS offenses have done better (Delaware State, Duquesne, Portland State, Central Arkansas, UT Martin). Starting that way against our only non-power opponent is quite discouraging. The defense was more of a mixed verdict, with 2.09 points per drive worse than last year's Hawaii average of 1.85 points per drive (only 45 offenses in the country were as dynamic last year as we made Hawaii look) but giving up 4.78 yards per play is quite good, the second best we've done against an FBS opponent in the last three seasons (did better in 2023 against Washington State). Part of the per play defensive success is level of opponent and we shouldn't act like this was good defense - only three of Hawaii's nine post-pandemic Power Four opponents were less stingy on defense (Vanderbilt, our own 2023 Stanford team, Oregon State) but the defense delivered better than the offense.

4. It doesn't take this post for everybody to understand the cataclysmic failure came with the passing game. That was our lowest yards per attempt since 2016 Arizona and lowest passer rating since 2017 San Diego State (surprised the Jack West UCLA game edged out in both categories but it did). The eye test and the stats will agree that the most obvious thing about yesterday's game was that the passing game was atrocious. That rightly leads to a lot of heat coming Gulbranson's way, however I think most of the takes on him are overheated and assume way more upside in switching things up at quarterback than we're likely to experience. More on that below. Relatively speaking, the run game was of course a positive. As pleased as I was with Ford and Irvin's successes, I think this was more about their good efforts against a bad opponent than a sign of run game breakthrough. We had three better rushing games last year against Power Four opponents and we rushed for almost half a yard per carry better the last time we played Hawaii. We were half a yard per carry worse than Hawaii's average in any of the last three seasons, and that's against a Mountain West schedule (let that sink in). The unfortunate reality is that Hawaii likely has a terrible run defense and this game is not the sign of offensive line improvement some are calling it. Relative to opponent it may actually be an arrow down on hopes for our offensive line to open up these kind of holes against freaking Hawaii. My big hope for the run game coming out of this game is that Gulbranson's struggles stacked the deck against a defense that didn't have to respect the pass. In any case, the most we can say is that the jury is out on our run game and especially our offensive line.

5. While the run game has gotten some flowers on the boards, I may be the first to point out where I think we truly had an encouraging performance: pass defense. That was the lowest yards per attempt we've allowed in the last 33 games and 2024 Louisville and 2023 Washington State were the only games the last two years with a better defensive passer rating. I know it's a Group of Five opponent but considering the passing attack is supposed to be Hawaii's strength and we were playing without Wright and Edwards this was a shockingly good pass defense performance. Alejado had a very gutty performance but whether one looks at Total QBR, passer rating, yards per attempt, etc., this was the toughest sledding he's faced in his small sample of college play. Favorably comparing ourselves to New Mexico and Utah State is not where I want to be as a program, but we should acknowledge the fine pass defense performance yesterday. Run defense, in contrast, was extremely disappointing to me, as we had seven games last year stingier in run defense and this was a passing-oriented Group of Five team that is horrible at the run game. Hawaii was 125th in rushing last year and had 3.45 yards per carry and was 132nd (of 133) the year before and had 3.04 yards per carry. Reminder that in the first game of the April era we held Hawaii to negative 5 yards and negative 0.31 yards per carry. Yesterday's performance of 96 yards and 4.00 yards per carry feels like a horrible failure.

6. Normally I would spend some energy dissecting the coaching and there's plenty to dissect here, including areas well trod by others in terms of when pass/run plays were dialed up, the lack of use of timeouts, and so forth. To be honest, though, I am wrestling with how much energy to put into dissecting a lame duck coaching staff. Before the game, I had much more enthusiasm for treating this year as a unique one-time self-contained burst toward advancing Luck's goals, but now that having a good season seems exceedingly unlikely this really feels like a true lame duck staff not worth investing a lot of thought in. I really hope the next 11 games prove that to be an overly dour assessment. One thing I will point out on the positive side is that, with the caveat of a small sample against a bad opponent, that was a good performance in terms of high leverage third and fourth down conversions for the offense and stops on such downs for the defense (a lot less encouraging in the red zone). It may be the case that we do indeed have a competent professional playcaller but just couldn't see fruits because the QB play was so bad.

RE: Sunday morning thoughts - Hawaii - msqueri - 08-24-2025

7. That QB play understandably is dominating the conversation right now. As I said above, in conventional stats it really doesn't get much worse. In my preferred stat of Total QBR it was a horrific performance but somewhat hyperbolic to call it the worst QB game in Stanford history. In the Taylor era alone we've had worse games by Lamson against both Sacramento State and Oregon State and last year's TCU (Daniels) and SMU (Brown) games were probably better but very similar to what we saw yesterday. Historically, I can do the full grisly list if and when the board history and search function gets restored but at a minimum Total QBR had the infamous Jack West game far worse (5.6!). In any case, that these are the comparisons drives home the point that Gulbranson played historically awfully. The question animating many is what to do going forward. IMHO the impulse to go with Brown is misguided. Yesterday shouldn't make us feel we were sold a bill of good and Gulbranson is a bum incapable of solid play. It's not actually even the worst game of his career - that would be 2022 against Oregon. He also had horrible games last year against San Jose State, 2022 against Washington, and 2022 against Utah. He is very capable of awful performances. We should not have deluded ourselves into thinking otherwise. At the same time, we still have solid evidence to think he is a better option than our alternatives. Looking at all performances with 10+ pass attempts, Gulbranson's career median is now 59.6 in 15 such games, which compares to 69.7 for Rizk in 5 such games (intriguing, but small sample) and a 15.4 for Brown in his only such game (and a 12.8 in a 9 attempt game. [Daniels is not an option for us anymore but for context his median is 52.9/54.3 in 18 such games.] The fundamentals of our room haven't changed: extremely qualified QB evaluating minds thought Gulbranson was clearly the choice, the backup some are pining for has been this level of awful in literally every FBS game he's ever played whereas Gulbranson has been substantially better a dozen times, and there are profound problems with both our offensive line and receiving corps that should make us doubt whether any of these guys will succeed. We don't have good options but I still think the choice is clear to ride with Gulbranson, at least for now. That said, this performance and the likelihood BYU will be ugly increases the chances of us playing some QB musical chairs with everybody failing.

8. There has not been nearly enough talk of our skill position ineptitude as a factor in yesterday's performance. Gulbranson threw bad balls and undoubtedly played poorly, but Roush, Williams, and Onovughe all came up meek and failing in contested catch opportunities (Hall too but at least he drew a flag) and all of those guys plus High, Farrell, and Blackburn weren't doing much to get open. I think the sad fact is that we have a miserable assortment of passing weapons and that is going to make any QB look worse than he is. Still, it's only one game and I hope all these guys do much more damage from here on out. Just sobering to have these struggles against a Group of Five team knowing what's ahead. The skill position players deserving of shout outs are of course the RBs. Ford - second 100 yard game of his career, only RB we've had do that since Filkins against Washington 2022 and our first RB touchdown in many moons - was the clear player of the game but Irvin moved the chains a lot too and Tabb was good in his limited opportunities. [Moving the chains (first down) leaderboard: Ford (9), Irvin (4), Williams (2, though one lucky to be ruled a catch), Holt, High, Tabb, and Hall drew a pass interference] I want to see what this looks like against real power defenses but so far so good in that room. It is fraught to highlight PFF grades with such a small sample and before the tape gets re-reviewed/vetted/confirmed, but for what it's worth PFF thought Prongos, Anderson (in limited backup duty), House (in duty limited by being pulled....injured?), and Fattig played well, Brown played solidly (which is encouraging for a redshirt freshman), and Pale was the weak link but not a liability. Again, I want to see what this looks like against a real front.

9. The defense was not as bad as the offense but I did not love how few players on the defense positively impacted the game. There were only five guys who showed up with multiple positive plays in the box score (Rose, Barth, Patterson, Galvan, Buckey), which is really not good. The standout was Rose with two tackles for loss including a sack, a third down tackle to force a punt, and three other stops. He also had an unnecessary roughness but that was a judgment call and definitely didn't outweigh his excellent contributions. I know many fans view Patterson's unsportsmanlike as outweighing his contributions, but giving us that touchdown and sniffing out the trick play to what would have been devastating effect were arguably our two biggest defensive plays of the game. We should note that as we look for guys who can make plays. He made them. In general, the ILBs were a strong point with Barth having a stop, crunch time sack, and crunch time third down stop to force a field goal and Mattingly having the great fourth down stop, and Galvan making a few plays (and PFF really liked his play). PFF really liked Staples' contributions, which I didn't notice on tv or in the box score. I am very bummed the OLBs (all of them) disrupted as little as they did. Leigber also had a disappointing game.

10. Kenney made field goals of 23 and 46 but the big story is of course the blocked field goal, one of several plays in the game we can call the difference. Flintoft had net punts of 41 to the 42 (solid), 40 to the 42 (solid), 34 to the 36 (mediocre at best), and 44 to the 28 outkicking coverage in crunch time (the return made me nervous but will always take net 44). We lost field position on special teams numerous ways, including the punt unit delay of game, Dubre's punt block offsides, and both of Tabb's returns (a 19 yarder and a 9 yarder that added up to 9 yards worse field position than fair catches would have). The tackling was ok but not great on coverage, with Mattingly and Doyle bringing guys down but not positive results for us. Farrell fell down on his 4 yard punt return and did get us a couple yards past fair catch territory with the 19 yard kick return.

11. Game balls: Ford, Rose, Flintoft, Agnew

12. No choice but to go forward and see what can be salvaged. Hopefully we can do enough to make this year not feel like a total waste and, even if it does feel like a lost year of delay in getting a post-Taylor staff, maybe we can do enough to make football at Stanford a tolerable enough experience that guys like Ford and the offensive linemen don't want to transfer out. There is a lot of season left and I hope the coaches and players buckle down and make the naysayers look foolish. A lot can happen in 11 games. Right now I don't see where a respectable team comes from but maybe they can shock the world. Having a bye to improve health and make adjustments, with an NFL head coach, is not nothing. Regardless, I won't give up on this program even if I feel like this year is mostly spinning wheels to turn a new page.

RE: Sunday morning thoughts - Hawaii - JohnR34231 - 08-24-2025

Interesting game when it results in hopes for the year are that we can somehow play well enough so our best players don't transfer out.

Yeah i think there were hopes that adding Luck and Reich would somehow transform this team into a respectable one. Jury is still out but things don't look very positive.

Definitely agree that until our receivers start playing better no QB is going to look very good.

RE: Sunday morning thoughts - Hawaii - BostonCard - 08-24-2025

Jim Mora comments on the Stanford offense:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tie0tz7jGDI

Yeah, we couldn’t do diddly poo offensively.

BC

RE: Sunday morning thoughts - Hawaii - qwerty49 - 08-24-2025

Correct me if I'm wrong but IIRC we lost our top 4 WRs from last year -- Ayomanor to the NFL and 3 others (Cisse, Rueben, Bachmeier) to the portal. And Jackson Harris, whom I don't even remember seeing on a Stanford depth chart the past 2 years, showed more speed and athleticism than any WR we put out there yesterday. That's hard to recover from, and our recruiting looks to have just whiffed on that position.

Maybe it was nerves, but Gulbranson was woefully inaccurate on short passes, which seemed pretty weird.

For one of our most experienced guys, Leigber was kind of a no-show all day.

Rose, OTOH, was right in the middle of everything and played a stellar game IMHO.

RE: Sunday morning thoughts - Hawaii - Row80Critic - 08-24-2025

My thoughts:

I would have benched Patterson for the game after his endless, cringe-worthy, fanny-patting dance after his sack. We were screaming in the stands for him to stop, but he just kept going and going and going until the refs had no choice. In a game full of lows, that was the low of the game in my book, and very likely the difference in the game. Let's hope he learns from it, not only on the field but in life...

Coach should have mercy-benched Gulbranson. Put the Tree in if you have to, but don't force a guy to go out series after series looking like that. That's the kind of game that can stick with you forever. Run game was ok, and pass blocking was improved, but Gulbranson couldn't pull the trigger play after play (very reminiscent of, but not quite as frozen as, Jack West actually). When he did throw, his passes were low, high, wide, short, all over the field -- often because he waited until the protection broke down and threw in desperation. The receivers were not getting great separation, and the protection wasn't perfect, but both were good enough. No idea if Brown or Rick or any other the others could have done better, but it's almost irrelevant. Sometimes you have to throw in the towel so the athlete can survive to fight another day. Yesterday was that day.

Hard to imagine, but I missed The Turtle yesterday. Up by 4, running game working, clock dwindling in the 4th, and the brain trust has the the QB -- during a bottom-5-ever performance -- start throwing the ball. I mean seriously, do they not have eyeballs? Could they not see what was happening on the field? Are they so used the NFL where they can just rely on every phase of the game to work somewhat competently?

Stanford's had worse first games and bounced back. Frustrations aside, they weren't far off from winning that game -- play ten times and Stanford probably wins 4 times. In season changes (better qb play, better coaching and player discipline, best game-day players on the field, etc.) could probably push that to 6 or 7 times. Not as bad as the UC Davis game, for example, where the team just seemed uninterested in the game altogether. I sat through that one and came back to see Stanford shine, and I'll come back after this one. When Stanford is next playing on New Years day, and the stands are full of fair weather fans, it will be just a bit sweeter for those who stuck it out in times like these.

RE: Sunday morning thoughts - Hawaii - lex24 - 08-24-2025

(08-24-2025, 02:45 PM)Row80Critic Wrote: My thoughts:

I would have benched Patterson for the game after his endless, cringe-worthy, fanny-patting dance after his sack. We were screaming in the stands for him to stop, but he just kept going and going and going until the refs had no choice. In a game full of lows, that was the low of the game in my book, and very likely the difference in the game. Let's hope he learns from it, not only on the field but in life...

Coach should have mercy-benched Gulbranson. Put the Tree in if you have to, but don't force a guy to go out series after series looking like that. That's the kind of game that can stick with you forever. Run game was ok, and pass blocking was improved, but Gulbranson couldn't pull the trigger play after play (very reminiscent of, but not quite as frozen as, Jack West actually). When he did throw, his passes were low, high, wide, short, all over the field -- often because he waited until the protection broke down and threw in desperation. The receivers were not getting great separation, and the protection wasn't perfect, but both were good enough. No idea if Brown or Rick or any other the others could have done better, but it's almost irrelevant. Sometimes you have to throw in the towel so the athlete can survive to fight another day. Yesterday was that day.

Hard to imagine, but I missed The Turtle yesterday. Up by 4, running game working, clock dwindling in the 4th, and the brain trust has the the QB -- during a bottom-5-ever performance -- start throwing the ball. I mean seriously, do they not have eyeballs? Could they not see what was happening on the field? Are they so used the NFL where they can just rely on every phase of the game to work somewhat competently?

Stanford's had worse first games and bounced back. Frustrations aside, they weren't far off from winning that game -- play ten times and Stanford probably wins 4 times. In season changes (better qb play, better coaching and player discipline, best game-day players on the field, etc.) could probably push that to 6 or 7 times. Not as bad as the UC Davis game, for example, where the team just seemed uninterested in the game altogether. I sat through that one and came back to see Stanford shine, and I'll come back after this one. When Stanford is next playing on New Years day, and the stands are full of fair weather fans, it will be just a bit sweeter for those who stuck it out in times like these.

Not surprisingly I agree with your comments on THE DANCE. Not sure, but I don’t think he saw the field afterwards. Hopefully he apologized to the team. Pure selfishness. Cost them dearly.

RE: Sunday morning thoughts - Hawaii - cctop - 08-24-2025

(08-24-2025, 03:16 PM)lex24 Wrote: Not surprisingly I agree with your comments on THE DANCE. Not sure, but I don’t think he saw the field afterwards. Hopefully he apologized to the team. Pure selfishness. Cost them dearly.

After Micah Ford scored the TD in the 4th quarter, on TV it looked like he started to celebrate then the teammate next to him hugged him to hold his arms down.

RE: Sunday morning thoughts - Hawaii - jonnyss - 08-24-2025

i thought the dance was great - for a few moments, the most fun at a stanford football game in years - and the ref was a sourpuss. i'll take a few mistakes to have an upbeat team rather than the recent morose teams.

also not that long: timing it from the video replay, the camera pans to the crowd applauding at 3.5 seconds. when the camera pans back at 5.5 seconds, the ref is touching patterson's arm - presumably cautioning - and he has already stopped dancing.

RE: Sunday morning thoughts - Hawaii - Nobadeer - 08-24-2025

To Qwerty's point: "Correct me if I'm wrong but IIRC we lost our top 4 WRs from last year -- Ayomanor to the NFL and 3 others (Cisse, Rueben, Bachmeier) to the portal. And Jackson Harris, whom I don't even remember seeing on a Stanford depth chart the past 2 years, showed more speed and athleticism than any WR we put out there yesterday. That's hard to recover from, and our recruiting looks to have just whiffed on that position."

I think Emmett Mosley also transferred, to Texas or A&M? He played great late last season.

RE: Sunday morning thoughts - Hawaii - fullmetal - 08-24-2025

Mosley went to Texas.

Chip.burns@glenborough.com - sunnyside sudser - 08-24-2025

Msqueri I always look forward to your recaps. To my mind the best most honest Stanford football
Coverage available.

My fear is the relative success of the running game is a mirage. Loved the effort and skill of all three backs but as you note that’s a bad running d. After seeing our lack of skill options and charitably inconsistent qb play every d coordinator is going to load the box and see how we can threaten them. I don’t miss the Taylor offense but hard to see this group doing much better than last year. Hope I’m wrong.

RE: Sunday morning thoughts - Hawaii - fullmetal - 08-24-2025

I think the game was disappointing because it was winnable, and Stanford sort of gave the game away. The team didn't quite snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, but it was there for the taking in the second half. So that's disappointing, and it hurts a lot given that there will be precious few opportunities to match up well against opponents this year.

The offensive numbers looked bad because, I think, the offense wasn't put in a place to succeed. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting the same results, and when you throw the ball over and over again with this particular set of talent, I'm not sure how you'd expect different results. I'm beating the drum again: that last TD drive was run dominant (2:1 ratio, just about?), and we saw Hawai'i defenders gassed, taking injury timeouts to catch their breath, etc. We never went back to that after the INT. (Woody Hayes had something to say about the outcomes of passing the ball.) And again, I will point out that Hawai'i nearly had three more interceptions if their defensive players had good hands.

Finally, the last two minutes of the game: either get into range of Kenney's leg (and he's got range), or bleed out the clock so that Hawai'i doesn't have an eternity to short-pass and play the sidelines to get into FG range for themselves. Giving the ball back with 1:45 on the clock was foolish, imo. And if you call timeouts correctly (Stanford had three at the time), maybe you preserve enough clock to get the ball back and tie it back up or score a TD. Hawai'i did the smart thing and bled out the clock to hit a walk-off FG. Offensive playcalling failed in at least two strategic ways, and I don't know how you rectify a lack of strategic fundamentals in the coaching staff. The kids trust the coaches to put the team in a position to win. Yeah...no. But the kids almost won the game anyway. That sack-TD to start the game was an amazing play. This team wanted to win.

RE: Sunday morning thoughts - Hawaii - Mick - 08-25-2025

(08-24-2025, 02:34 PM)qwerty49 Wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong but IIRC we lost our top 4 WRs from last year -- Ayomanor to the NFL and 3 others (Cisse, Rueben, Bachmeier) to the portal.

Cisse went to Arkansas and is not currently listed in the four-deep (featuring 11 WRs). There are 17 WRs on the Arkansas roster, so at best he's #12.
2025 Arkansas Razorbacks Football Depth Chart | Ourlads.com
2025 Arkansas Razorbacks Football Roster | Ourlads.com

Bachmeier went to BYU in the Big 12. Playing with his brother Bear. He will start at BYU WR-X.
2025 BYU Cougars Football Roster | Ourlads.com
2025 BYU Cougars Football Depth Chart | Ourlads.com

Reuben went to South Florida, currently listed as #4, 5 or 6 on depth chart (second on WR-X). 16 WRs on their roster. So. Fl. is in the AAC
2025 South Florida Bulls Football Depth Chart | Ourlads.com
2025 South Florida Bulls Football Roster | Ourlads.com

RE: Sunday morning thoughts - Hawaii - fullmetal - 08-25-2025

One Texas prognosticator puts Mosley at the backup Z. Not bad for Mosley.
https://www.si.com/college/texas/football/texas-longhorns-2025-week-1-depth-chart-predictions-offense

Ourlads.com puts Mosley as the starting Z receiver.
https://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/depth-chart/texas/92016

RE: Sunday morning thoughts - Hawaii - old spanish trail - 08-25-2025

(08-25-2025, 10:38 AM)fullmetal Wrote: One Texas prognosticator puts Mosley at the backup Z. Not bad for Mosley.
https://www.si.com/college/texas/football/texas-longhorns-2025-week-1-depth-chart-predictions-offense

Ourlads.com puts Mosley as the starting Z receiver.
https://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/depth-chart/texas/92016

If he's not starting now, he will be shortly. Mosley is really good.

RE: Sunday morning thoughts - Hawaii - SkiBum80 - 08-25-2025

Watched postgame PC with Coach Reich and Ben Gulbranson.
Was good.
Not happy, not giddy, not distracted, not evasive, but good, because both took responsibility and ownership for a disappointing game performance.
And to commit to study film, find a way to play/execute better.
This by itself doesn't mean they will play better next game.
But without this as a first step, you can almost guarantee they won't.

RE: Sunday morning thoughts - Hawaii - fullmetal - 08-25-2025

Coach Reich needs to find a real special teams coach. Bob Gregory went to kal, alas. Can't let a 34-yd Kenney attempt get blocked.

The OC needs to either evolve really quickly or be replaced. I don't know whether it's possible to "get it" mid-season, but it seems analogous to a +800 FIDE rating improvement. Feels like someone is still learning how to takeoff and land when we need someone to take a fighter jet out for a near-peer dogfight (guns only).

BG is probably the person who has the highest possibility for improvement. Can't play scared, gotta be more accurate, gotta learn to see the game quicker. He can learn. The adults in the room I'm more worried about since they're more set in their ways.

RE: Sunday morning thoughts - Hawaii - Langdude - 08-25-2025

(08-24-2025, 08:04 PM)Nobadeer Wrote: To Qwerty's point: "Correct me if I'm wrong but IIRC we lost our top 4 WRs from last year -- Ayomanor to the NFL and 3 others (Cisse, Rueben, Bachmeier) to the portal. And Jackson Harris, whom I don't even remember seeing on a Stanford depth chart the past 2 years, showed more speed and athleticism than any WR we put out there yesterday. That's hard to recover from, and our recruiting looks to have just whiffed on that position."

I think Emmett Mosley also transferred, to Texas or A&M? He played great late last season.

See the notes under "2025 Stanford Football Personnel" to see a list of all transfers from last year's team and their new teams. (There is also a list of all incoming transfers and their old teams.)

-m.

RE: Sunday morning thoughts - Hawaii - newguy - 08-25-2025

i really hope Gulbranson doesn't play against BYU. he may have performed better in practice, but that doesn't mean much if you have trouble completing short passes during an actual game.