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RE: Bear Bachmeier - Row80Critic - 04-23-2025
Is he officially in the portal? All the stories I've seen say he is 'expected' to enter the portal, but it's been several days and he's apparently still suiting up and practicing with the team. So that seems curious...
RE: Bear Bachmeier - martyup - 04-23-2025
(04-23-2025, 02:04 PM)Row80Critic Wrote: Is he officially in the portal? All the stories I've seen say he is 'expected' to enter the portal, but it's been several days and he's apparently still suiting up and practicing with the team. So that seems curious...
https://247sports.com/season/2025-football/transferportal/?institutionkey=24092&positiongroupkey=1
RE: Bear Bachmeier - SamuelMcF - 04-23-2025
(04-23-2025, 02:16 PM)martyup Wrote:(04-23-2025, 02:04 PM)Row80Critic Wrote: Is he officially in the portal? All the stories I've seen say he is 'expected' to enter the portal, but it's been several days and he's apparently still suiting up and practicing with the team. So that seems curious...
https://247sports.com/season/2025-football/transferportal/?institutionkey=24092&positiongroupkey=1
He is not officially in the portal. 247 has jumped the gun.
RE: Bear Bachmeier - Row80Critic - 04-23-2025
(04-23-2025, 03:22 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(04-23-2025, 02:16 PM)martyup Wrote:(04-23-2025, 02:04 PM)Row80Critic Wrote: Is he officially in the portal? All the stories I've seen say he is 'expected' to enter the portal, but it's been several days and he's apparently still suiting up and practicing with the team. So that seems curious...
https://247sports.com/season/2025-football/transferportal/?institutionkey=24092&positiongroupkey=1
He is not officially in the portal. 247 has jumped the gun.
That was my guess as well, and why I asked. If it doesn't become official shortly after spring training, you have to wonder if the media in general jumped the gun....
RE: Bear Bachmeier - chrisk - 04-23-2025
Football portal closes Friday 4/25
RE: Bear Bachmeier - 2006alum - 04-23-2025
(04-23-2025, 08:53 PM)chrisk Wrote: Football portal closes Friday 4/25So.... Two more days for a probable third-string, true frosh quarterback to leverage himself into an upgraded NIL package?
RE: Bear Bachmeier - MV72018 - 04-23-2025
(04-21-2025, 07:30 PM)BostonCard Wrote: How much would a third string freshman QB on a 3-9 team really command? I guess the calculus is that he needs to see the field early, even if it is for a G5 or an FCS team, so as to show his value as a later transfer to a major school for the NIL money, but I have to wonder whether despite some very highly publicized exception, the modal pathway for players like this is bench on a middling FBs team to toiling in obscurity as a middling starter on an FCS team, and never transferring back to the big time for big NIL money.
I’ve said it before, but we don’t need to be part of this. It is sad to me that when modern collegiate athletics runs cross current to our academic mission, we are so willing to bend the latter.
BC
Agree with you, BC.
RE: Bear Bachmeier - martyup - 04-23-2025
(04-23-2025, 03:22 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(04-23-2025, 02:16 PM)martyup Wrote:(04-23-2025, 02:04 PM)Row80Critic Wrote: Is he officially in the portal? All the stories I've seen say he is 'expected' to enter the portal, but it's been several days and he's apparently still suiting up and practicing with the team. So that seems curious...
https://247sports.com/season/2025-football/transferportal/?institutionkey=24092&positiongroupkey=1
He is not officially in the portal. 247 has jumped the gun.
Do you have a link to the "official" transfer portal?
This also shows he has entered:
https://collegefootballnetwork.com/transfer-portal-tracker-2025/
RE: Bear Bachmeier - CompSci87 - 04-23-2025
(04-23-2025, 09:52 PM)martyup Wrote:(04-23-2025, 03:22 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(04-23-2025, 02:16 PM)martyup Wrote:(04-23-2025, 02:04 PM)Row80Critic Wrote: Is he officially in the portal? All the stories I've seen say he is 'expected' to enter the portal, but it's been several days and he's apparently still suiting up and practicing with the team. So that seems curious...
https://247sports.com/season/2025-football/transferportal/?institutionkey=24092&positiongroupkey=1
He is not officially in the portal. 247 has jumped the gun.
Do you have a link to the "official" transfer portal?
This also shows he has entered:
https://collegefootballnetwork.com/transfer-portal-tracker-2025/
The official transfer portal is private, accessible only to DI-DIII college administrators and coaches. Presumably they agree not to give access to others as a condition of use.
I didn't find a primary source for that fact in a couple of minutes googling, but found some sites that state it. Here's a secondary source: https://honestgame.com/blog/ncaa-transfer-portal/.
RE: Bear Bachmeier - JohnR34231 - 04-24-2025
This is becoming like a soap opera.
Will touted QB Bear Bachmeier forsake Stanford and move on to perceived greener pastures after only one quarter at the esteemed institution.
Tune in again tomorrow for another exciting episode.
RE: Bear Bachmeier - Goose - 04-24-2025
(04-23-2025, 09:51 PM)MV72018 Wrote:I too agree with BC. The real question in my mind is "Can Stanford participate in modern collegiate athletics and not bend its academic mission? If it can, what does that entail?". One thing is certain. Stanford cannot prevent admitted students from entering the transfer portal. Stanford MAY be able to restrict students from accepting certain types of employment, but that is a longshot legal argument that would have all kinds of "issues". For all practical purposes that means Stanford students will be able to accept NIL contracts. Those two things are outside Stanford's control.(04-21-2025, 07:30 PM)BostonCard Wrote: I’ve said it before, but we don’t need to be part of this. It is sad to me that when modern collegiate athletics runs cross current to our academic mission, we are so willing to bend the latter.
BC
Agree with you, BC.
Everything else, such as travel schedules, admission standards, transfer admission policy etc. is under Stanford's control. Stanford historically has considered athletics as a factor in admissibility. What has changed over time is the weight of that factor. Do athletics "count" too much in Stanford's admissions policies, both for freshman and transfers, to the point it bends the academic standards "too far"? Stanford athletic teams always have traveled to some competitions. Today the problem is how far and how often is "too much"? Stanford has also changed some policies for athletic reasons, in particular allowing incoming freshmen to matriculate "early" in some cases. Is this policy change academically sub-optimal and if so by how much? These are all factors that are inside Stanford's control. The University can decide what is compatible with its academic mission and it clearly has the power to act accordingly.
The third thing that is outside Stanford's control is the business model of modern college athletics, particularly football and basketball. In order to compete at all, let alone successfully at the higher levels requires large amounts of capital, both for infrastructure and for personnel. Paying coaches many millions of dollars a year is now a necessity. Having the best facilities is also an expensive necessity. Financing this structure year over year places demands on the University that are at best extremely loosely connected to academics. In order to raise the income to operate Stanford had to join a "major" conference. The ACC was our only choice. That imposed constraints on travel that removed Stanford's ability to control travel frequency and distance. This "big business" requirement arguably forces Stanford to do many things that are NOT in the best interest of student education. It also requires time and attention from the University upper management. For me, this is absolutely a bridge too far. Stanford should not be a for-profit corporation heavily involved in the entertainment industry. That isn't its chartered purpose and does not attract me as a fan in any way.
IMO the business model is literally the elephant in the room that renders modern college athletics incompatible with Stanford's academic mission. This will only become "worse" if the House settlement forces Universities to pay the athletes. The total removal of the amateur aspect of athletics removes the last arguments that college sports "builds character" etc. At least in theory, if not in practice, NIL is not connected with athletic participation or performance. A salary from the University for playing clearly is. That constrains the University to largely ignore the academic aspects of the student-athlete's "career" in favor of his current "job". I see no way participating in this system could be compatible with the academic purpose of ANY University, let alone Stanford.
RE: Bear Bachmeier - StanfordMatt - 04-24-2025
Per Matt Zenitz, Bear is now "officially" in the transfer portal. As the world turns...
RE: Bear Bachmeier - fullmetal - 04-24-2025
Doesn't mean he won't stay. Fingers crossed.
RE: Bear Bachmeier - StanfordMatt - 04-24-2025
(04-24-2025, 01:34 PM)fullmetal Wrote: Doesn't mean he won't stay. Fingers crossed.
Alternative view: Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
RE: Bear Bachmeier - BostonCard - 04-24-2025
(04-24-2025, 08:56 AM)Goose Wrote: I too agree with BC. The real question in my mind is "Can Stanford participate in modern collegiate athletics and not bend its academic mission? If it can, what does that entail?". One thing is certain. Stanford cannot prevent admitted students from entering the transfer portal. Stanford MAY be able to restrict students from accepting certain types of employment, but that is a longshot legal argument that would have all kinds of "issues". For all practical purposes that means Stanford students will be able to accept NIL contracts. Those two things are outside Stanford's control.
Everything else, such as travel schedules, admission standards, transfer admission policy etc. is under Stanford's control. Stanford historically has considered athletics as a factor in admissibility. What has changed over time is the weight of that factor. Do athletics "count" too much in Stanford's admissions policies, both for freshman and transfers, to the point it bends the academic standards "too far"? Stanford athletic teams always have traveled to some competitions. Today the problem is how far and how often is "too much"? Stanford has also changed some policies for athletic reasons, in particular allowing incoming freshmen to matriculate "early" in some cases. Is this policy change academically sub-optimal and if so by how much? These are all factors that are inside Stanford's control. The University can decide what is compatible with its academic mission and it clearly has the power to act accordingly.
The third thing that is outside Stanford's control is the business model of modern college athletics, particularly football and basketball. In order to compete at all, let alone successfully at the higher levels requires large amounts of capital, both for infrastructure and for personnel. Paying coaches many millions of dollars a year is now a necessity. Having the best facilities is also an expensive necessity. Financing this structure year over year places demands on the University that are at best extremely loosely connected to academics. In order to raise the income to operate Stanford had to join a "major" conference. The ACC was our only choice. That imposed constraints on travel that removed Stanford's ability to control travel frequency and distance. This "big business" requirement arguably forces Stanford to do many things that are NOT in the best interest of student education. It also requires time and attention from the University upper management. For me, this is absolutely a bridge too far. Stanford should not be a for-profit corporation heavily involved in the entertainment industry. That isn't its chartered purpose and does not attract me as a fan in any way.
IMO the business model is literally the elephant in the room that renders modern college athletics incompatible with Stanford's academic mission. This will only become "worse" if the House settlement forces Universities to pay the athletes. The total removal of the amateur aspect of athletics removes the last arguments that college sports "builds character" etc. At least in theory, if not in practice, NIL is not connected with athletic participation or performance. A salary from the University for playing clearly is. That constrains the University to largely ignore the academic aspects of the student-athlete's "career" in favor of his current "job". I see no way participating in this system could be compatible with the academic purpose of ANY University, let alone Stanford.
Specifically, the issue is almost exclusively can Stanford participate in high level football and basketball. Most athletes in most sports are not getting significant NIL deals, and even in in football and basketball it is really only an issue that affects major conference teams. The problem comes to whether Stanford would be able to financially support all the non-revenue programs, where NIL is a rare issue (notwithstanding a superstar softball pitcher) and post-COVID, the portal is less likely to be used.
BC
RE: Bear Bachmeier - jacket3ree - 04-24-2025
My feeling is that if losing a Bear Bachmeier is a real problem, we're kinda ******. I'm mostly interested to see if the self-interested market will eat itself, but maybe those 24 mega teams will be cool calling themselves national champions when there are fewer and fewer teams to play because those teams have exited the market. I mean MLB calls it a World Series, so sure, of course.
BC is right. Stanford doesn't need to be a part of this, but I wonder what not being a part of this looks like. Leaving the ACC costs a lot of money and what happens to the Home of Champions when they wind up running a glorified intramural program? DIII has NIL too. Interesting that there is no portal for them. I guess they transfer the old fashioned way.
Stanford does all sorts of things barely related to an academic mission. I'm not so worried about that as long as this is college sports. Once it becomes some sort of weird sponsored side gig (and maybe we're already there), I'm out. Unless there is an entertaining game on the tube and I have nothing better to do.
As fans, this is easy. Just stop caring. I still care, but not to the point of dragging my butt down El Camino to attend games. The next Stanford game I intend to attend in person, I think the first since I found old T-shirts and six tickets for the Midshipmen that were sleeping on our floor when Stanford blew Cal's doors off and into the sixth dimension, will be in Virginia of all places. And that is mostly because we planned to go back in the fall anyway to catch a game, and that weekend works well with a wedding we are attending in Arkansas. A bit of disappointment that we won't be going to a full-house game at Scott against the 'Noles.
I will say this though. Without sports, Stanford becomes mostly a place I lived for nine months 40 years ago with a shopping center I never visit. Without sports, I'm not hauling my butt down El Camino past protestors and a packed Farm with (gotta say it) lazy parking attendants, to beach the car in the dirt and duff so my wife's replaced knee got a workout to hang at Sunken Diamond behind the third base dugout with new Bay Area friends who share nothing more in common than having some GT or ATL paraphernalia (all engineers though) and will root for the Jackets hell or high water. And run into an old Stanford buddy to boot. Really nice day. But only there because of sports.
RE: Bear Bachmeier - BobK - 04-24-2025
Rumor is a transfer QB is very possible.
Rumor only
Not a rumor but a signee
https://x.com/mzenitz/status/1915561234646155320?s=46
RE: Bear Bachmeier - Goose - 04-24-2025
(04-24-2025, 06:25 PM)BobK Wrote: Rumor is a transfer QB is very possible.BobK, (or anybody else) do you have any insight into the timing of recruiting this transfer? Rizk was in the portal pretty early on, so Stanford could have been working on this for awhile. I don't think Stanford really wants to carry four QBs. The issue I am really getting at is: Was recruiting this QB a response to Bachmeier entering the portal, was it an independent event, or did Bachmeier enter the portal when he found out it was happening?
Rumor only
Not a rumor but a signee
https://x.com/mzenitz/status/1915561234646155320?s=46
RE: Bear Bachmeier - BobK - 04-24-2025
I’m sure Ben on Rivals will get your answers. Not really an ad :)
RE: Bear Bachmeier - Mick - 04-25-2025
(04-24-2025, 06:25 PM)BobK Wrote: Rumor is a transfer QB is very possible.
Rumor only
Not a rumor but a signee
https://x.com/mzenitz/status/1915561234646155320?s=46
That escalated quickly.
Looks like a decent quarterback. 72 completions, 117 attempts, 5 TDs, 2 INTs, 137.1 efficiency rating. Not quite as good as the starter, but definitely decent.
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