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RE: NBA Playoffs - cardcrimson - 06-02-2022

(06-02-2022, 09:15 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:  And now that I know my unsung hero Gary Payton II is gonna play

Unsung? Seems to me, most talking heads have been talking about how good he's played for the Warriors all season and how important he's become. Quite the defender. . . .

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RE: NBA Playoffs - OutsiderFan - 06-02-2022

I only say Klay Thompson for Finals MVP because...

1. He is more motivated and capable of playing great in the Finals than anyone given how hard he had to work to get back after injuries.

2. He wants to remind people how he should have been on the NBA 75th Anniversary Team.

That comeback "narrative" could take root if he is playing great, and make him a sentimental favorite.

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RE: NBA Playoffs - CompSci87 - 06-02-2022

Plus people love to dis Curry for never having been finals MVP,  even though it's a not terribly meaningful award that is voted on only by a small panel of media people.

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RE: NBA Playoffs - TrumpCard - 06-02-2022

The news that Payton apparently is available tonight is a little surprising to me. I read that a fractured elbow takes a min of 6 weeks.

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leftcoast - Leftcoast - 06-02-2022

For at least one night experience is overrated.  Great fourth quarter by the Celtics.

Down by 15 in the third and now leading by 15 in the fourth. Wow.

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RE: NBA Playoffs - BostonCard - 06-02-2022

40-16 fourth quarter.  Brutal.

BC

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RE: NBA Playoffs - DC 86 - 06-02-2022

Ironically it was the Celtics with a 3-point barrage: 9-12 in the fourth quarter, amazing.

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RE: NBA Playoffs - OutsiderFan - 06-03-2022

(06-02-2022, 09:23 PM)DC 86 Wrote:  Ironically it was the Celtics with a 3-point barrage: 9-12 in the fourth quarter, amazing.

We could possibly never see that kind of 3pt scoring efficiency from a team again as long as we live. I wonder what the odds of making 9-12 3pt shots in the 4th quarter of an NBA game is. 

The Celtics may well win the series, but anyone who points to that shooting exhibition as somehow indicative of why the W's are in trouble, can't really be taken seriously. It simply is not sustainable and is not happening again. Even if they shot an itself insane 6-12 from 3, the Warriors probably win because they aren't forcing shots and getting out of sorts as the see every shot the C's take form deep go in.

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RE: NBA Playoffs - Mick - 06-03-2022

Who wins?  Celtics
How many games?  Six
Finals MVP?  Smart
Unsung hero?  Most of them.  Horford, Brown, White


I was listening to the talking heads before the game.  All five of them predicted the Warriors in either six or seven games.  Not one took the Celtics.

I take the Celtics for four reasons:
(1) They've won five of their last six against the Warriors (and now six of their last seven).
(2) The only teams that the Warriors have trouble with are physical teams, and the Celtics are a VERY physical team.
(3) The referees let physical play go, particularly the further they go in the playoffs. Foster, Fitzgerald and Davis are marginal refs, IMHO. Davis calls the second-fewest fouls in the NBA with the seventh-highest percentage against home teams.
(4) the Warriors are old.  They're the second oldest team in the NBA and their really young players...Moody, Wiseman, Kuminga...play very little.  The Celtics are 25.9, less than the league average.  Of the Celts' top 14 players by minutes played this season, just one was over 30.  Three of the Warriors' top five are over 30 and five of their Top 14 are over 30.  Nine are 28 or older on the W's, just five on the Celts are 28 or older.

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RE: NBA Playoffs - lex24 - 06-03-2022

(06-03-2022, 04:11 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:  

(06-02-2022, 09:23 PM)DC 86 Wrote:  Ironically it was the Celtics with a 3-point barrage: 9-12 in the fourth quarter, amazing.

We could possibly never see that kind of 3pt scoring efficiency from a team again as long as we live. I wonder what the odds of making 9-12 3pt shots in the 4th quarter of an NBA game is. 

The Celtics may well win the series, but anyone who points to that shooting exhibition as somehow indicative of why the W's are in trouble, can't really be taken seriously. It simply is not sustainable and is not happening again. Even if they shot an itself insane 6-12 from 3, the Warriors probably win because they aren't forcing shots and getting out of sorts as the see every shot the C's take form deep go in.

True.  But.  They won without getting much from Tatum.  And they look like the far more athletic team. They clamped down defensively in the 4th. Warriors had trouble getting good shots. Just one game.  But concerning for W fans.

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RE: NBA Playoffs - BostonCard - 06-03-2022

Sure, dismissing the Celtics offensive barrage might be reasonable, but if you are the Warriors, you have to be worried about the fact that you only scored 16 points in the fourth quarter.

BC

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RE: NBA Playoffs - Phogge - 06-03-2022

Didn’t watch. Any Celtics wearing low cut black Converse?

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RE: NBA Playoffs - fullmetal - 06-03-2022

I had to leave mid-way through the 3Q with the Warriors up nine-ish points...they looked pretty much in control, but I guess they were very much not.

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Why Boston won - MV72018 - 06-03-2022

Boston played beautifully. Here are two key reasons they won.

1. When Tatum drove, two or three Warriors surrounded him. He made excellent passes to the open man in the corner, either Horford or Smart or White. They had open looks and drained 3s.

2. The Dubs were lethargic and slow on O. Except for Steph they couldn't shake the Celtics' D. Once the Cs decided to play tight 1 on 1 switching D, no one other than Curry could shake free. Thompson was negated, Poole looked like an amateur, Green threw up bricks, the Dubs' motion O was disrupted bigtime. Few layups, not many O rebounds. 

The Celtics made the Dubs look old, slow, small, and disorganized. What grreat D and great passing! Warrior TOs are terrible.. 

Klay looked wooden out there. He doesn't have the handles to take it to the hoop or even to create his own shot. His D didn't impress me either. 

While I admire his passion and great D, I'm getting tired of Draymond's loud mouth, complaining to the refs, and self-promotion. 

I now expect the Celts to win the series in 6 -- unless Kerr comes up with some masterstroke adjustment. I love theWarriors and their incredible motion O, but was astonished how the Celtics took them apart in Q4. 40 to 16! Even with the Dubs' hot start, Boston was not far behind. Bostons' subs are far better than the Warriors' subs.

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RE: NBA Playoffs - Leftcoast - 06-03-2022

Just one game but man what a wake-up call that 4th quarter was - to the fans, to the press, and, hopefully, to the Warriors.

They looked like an experienced team that absorbed the younger Celtics first punch through three then got hit by the second punch in the 4th.  They were reeling.  That shooting percentage may be unsustainable but if they don't react (respect the secondary three point shooters, amp up the defense, spring Klay) then it will be Celtics in 6.

Let's see what Kerr and team show us in Sunday's game 2.

I'm a Warrior fan but regardless of rooting interest Game 1 was compelling television.

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RE: NBA Playoffs - OutsiderFan - 06-04-2022

Game 1 of the series, a 120-108 win for the Boston Celtics over the Golden State Warriors, drew 11.4 million viewers — the biggest audience for the series opener in three years [the last time the Warriors were in it], and up 33% from last year, and more than any Finals gam in '20 and '21. - Hollywood Reporter

The NBA should be crediting the W's on their luxury tax bill :)

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RE: NBA Playoffs - needle - 06-04-2022

I feel like the Warriors just haven’t faced as high a level of completion relative to what Boston faced.

It has been very tempting to me to say the Warriors are overrated, but it is also possible they have another gear they can reach. What can Kerr come up with, if anything, to keep the Warriors’ offense flowing smoothly?

I expect Game 2 to be very telling.

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RE: NBA Playoffs - BostonCard - 06-05-2022

Halftime of game 2 is 52-50 golden state.  Not much of a cushion, at all.

BC

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RE: NBA Playoffs - BostonCard - 06-05-2022

93-64 into the fourth. The Warriors won’t suffer an epic 4th quarter meltdown again, right? Right?

BC

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RE: NBA Playoffs - Leftcoast - 06-05-2022

No Warriors 4th quarter drama tonight - Boston threw in the towel early and viewers got to watch 9 minutes of garbage time by the teams second strings to end Game 2.

Warriors need at least one of the two in Boston.  They are very capable of taking one (or both) if they play like they did tonight.

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