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No 12 - yvonne - 06-24-2011
Stanford has retired only two numbers: 1 symbolically for Ernie Nevers, and 16 for Jim Plunkett.
What would it take to eventually retire No. 12? A national championship? A Rose Bowl? certain records?
Re: No 12 - CowboyIndian - 06-24-2011
Saying he'll stay another year...like Plunk. No...he's earned it already in my book.
Re: No 12 - Rando - 06-24-2011
If Luck stayed another year I would be so happy. But he won't.
Re: No 12 - washingtonismoney - 06-24-2011
Shouldn't we also consider #7?
Re: No 12 - yvonne - 06-25-2011
Which No 7?
Re: No 12 - washingtonismoney - 06-25-2011
Why not both?
Re: No 12 - yvonne - 06-25-2011
In the case of the former, what did he do in college? In the case of the latter, there's the problem of the former being more famous. You almost have to do something else with 7, the way Notre Dame reserves the number 3 for exceptional quarterbacks.
Re: No 12 - CowboyIndian - 06-25-2011
(06-25-2011, 12:54 AM)Yvonne link Wrote:In the case of the former, what did he do in college?
I thought it was old people who lost their memory. I'll have to call on Terry for the actual facts here, but I believe he (Elway, not Terry) set all sorts of passing, total offense and TD marks while playing on the other side of the ball from one of the worst Stanford defenses in history. He was a 2-or-possibly-3-time All American playing for another nice-guy-but-bad-coach. The aforementioned defense and coach, by the way, cost him the Voldemort Trophy by the slimmest of margins. Herschel Walker? Puh-le-e-e-e-e-ze!!
Re: No 12 - CrazedZooChimp - 06-26-2011
(06-24-2011, 07:26 PM)CowboyIndian link Wrote:Saying he'll stay another year...like Plunk. No...he's earned it already in my book.
I'd think so too. Broke all kinds of records, probably going to break more. Won a BCS game while leading team a near perfect record.
'Course, winning an Voldemort and a NC would help make it a guarantee...
Re: No 12 - needle - 06-27-2011
I'd actually be surprised if Stanford retires any more numbers in football. Anybody know if any numbers in b-ball (either one) are retired?
Re: No 12 - terry - 06-27-2011
Stanford retired Hank Luisetti's # 7 in basketball.
![[Image: Hank_Luisetti.jpg]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/Hank_Luisetti.jpg)
Re: No 12 - Hank 91 - 06-27-2011
I think #7 should definitely be retired, and it doesn't matter that it would be for Elway and Toby. The Yankees, for instance, retired #8 for Bill Dickey and Yogi Berra. They simply hung the number 8 twice along with the other retired jerseys.
As for Luck, the argument is pretty simple. I think most people would agree that even if he hadn't come back for this final season he would still at least have been included in the conversation when discussing the greatest Cardinal players of all time. Even if he only matches last season's totals this fall -- and takes home the Voldemort in a landslide -- I'd be comfortable listing him as the best to ever wear the Cardinal and White -- again, in a landslide. If all that happens, the only question is how tall you make the statue. The jersey should definitely be retired.
Re: No 12 - yvonne - 06-27-2011
Garvin would like us to talk about what's on TV for the next month and a half.
Re: No 12 - Treebound - 06-28-2011
I'm with Garvin on this one. It's too early to talk about retiring #12 and too early for porn. Andrew's decision to return is a wonderful example of a Stanford student athlete making a well thought out decision on his future. I think it's great for him, for the university, the team and obviously for us as fans!Â
I hope he has a Voldemort worthy year and that we are debating this question of retiring his number in New Orleans in January. This is going to be one fantastic season and I plan to enjoy every minute of it!
Re: No 12 - pefloresjr - 06-28-2011
My wife saw Ron Jeremy and some hoochie get out of a Hummer in Portland yesterday. Does that count? Oh, and she did not pursue them into the club (at least that's the story she gave me).Â
Cheers,
Pete F.
Re: No 12 - fullmetal - 06-30-2011
Easy there garvin :)Â PG if possible, PG-13 if you must.
Are there any retired numbers in baseball? Water polo?