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WBB: Oregon 89 Stanford 56 - 81alum - 03-07-2020
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And here we go again....can Tara figure out a way to beat Oregon once this year? Our last game against Oregon we showed major improvement over the first. Can we keep that trend going? Oregon certainly showed no weakness in dispatching Arizona tonight. Our defense looked about as good as it has all year in holding UCLA to 20 pts under its average. The unmovable object meets the unstoppable force.
Even the best of defenses--like Arizona's--can't hold Oregon's offense down too much--they just have too many scorers. Our offense will have to play nearly the best game of the year. But Oregon's matchup zone defense is much improved over a year ago, and it has been their surprisingly effective defense that has given us trouble.
Perhaps Dodson's growing effectiveness can help us keep Sabally from going off on us, and we can keep Hebard and Ionescu down to their production last time. Then we need major offensive production from Lexie and Williams and someone else. And if the stars align just so.....
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Oregon Sunday 5pm (spring ahead) - newguy - 03-08-2020
is it spring ahead, or spring forward?
either way, it should be a good game.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Oregon Sunday 5pm (spring ahead) - treetop11 - 03-08-2020
(03-07-2020, 11:36 PM)81alum Wrote: Preview:
And here we go again....can Tara figure out a way to beat Oregon once this year? Our last game against Oregon we showed major improvement over the first. Can we keep that trend going? Oregon certainly showed no weakness in dispatching Arizona tonight. Our defense looked about as good as it has all year in holding UCLA to 20 pts under its average. The unmovable object meets the unstoppable force.
Even the best of defenses--like Arizona's--can't hold Oregon's offense down too much--they just have too many scorers. Our offense will have to play nearly the best game of the year. But Oregon's matchup zone defense is much improved over a year ago, and it has been their surprisingly effective defense that has given us trouble.
Perhaps Dodson's growing effectiveness can help us keep Sabally from going off on us, and we can keep Hebard and Ionescu down to their production last time. Then we need major offensive production from Lexie and Williams and someone else. And if the stars align just so.....
Really don't know how we can stop Oregon - like you said, too many scorers. And it is really the vast improvement in their D that has made them so tough. They pressure and play hard on both ends and don't let up. We will just have to play harder, tougher, and faster than them and hope our shots drop and the refs call it fair.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Oregon Sunday 5pm (spring ahead) - WBB fan - 03-08-2020
It was really interesting sitting in front of Oregon fans last night and hearing their reaction to the officiating. They were yelling about fouls they thought should have been called on Arizona and were not, felt that fouls on Oregon were unfair, and so on. From their POV, it was all unfair for Oregon. All a matter of perspective??? I'm not enough of an expert to judge objectively, but I suspect that few fans really are. We're focused on our own team.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Oregon Sunday 5pm (spring ahead) - 81alum - 03-08-2020
(03-08-2020, 08:03 AM)WBB fan Wrote: It was really interesting sitting in front of Oregon fans last night and hearing their reaction to the officiating. They were yelling about fouls they thought should have been called on Arizona and were not, felt that fouls on Oregon were unfair, and so on. From their POV, it was all unfair for Oregon. All a matter of perspective??? I'm not enough of an expert to judge objectively, but I suspect that few fans really are. We're focused on our own team.Here is my theory. The fans are usually right. Officiating is so inexact that there are always plenty of really bad calls on both sides. And it is the job of fans to point out all the bad calls on their team and ignore all the bad calls on the other team.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Oregon Sunday 5pm (spring forward) - BobK - 03-08-2020
WBB fan I had the same experience. But just a couple behind me insisting the refs had been paid off and how dare they call a foul on oregon. That said I’m surrounded by duck fans who also just love the game. I’m in section 119
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Oregon Sunday 5pm (spring forward) - martyup - 03-08-2020
While watching the game on the Pac-12 network, on many of the ref calls that initially appeared to be wrong were confirmed to be correct on the replay when shown from a different camera angle. However, some calls or non-calls were clearly wrong. But, it is a difficult job to ref basketball.
I would love to see a rapid video review system in basketball for all calls. Anything could be reviewed. If the video booth saw an incorrect call, play would be stopped and the refs would have to review the video on courtside monitors. They could then overrule or confirm the call. Such a system would not need to use broadcast quality cameras. Several small static wireless cameras could be placed around the court and fed to the video booth. No camera operators would be required. With the right software application, one or two people in the video booth could monitor the action. The head ref could wear a bluetooth earpiece to communicate with the video booth.
This system could be portable enough to travel with each officiating crew. Or, each NCAA venue could be required to acquire and install the system at the facility. It would be important to have hardware and software consistency across all venues. This way, a failed camera or monitor could be quickly replaced and the video booth operators would only need to know one system.
The person that creates such a hardware and software system and contracts with the NCAA, and perhaps the NBA, could do very well financially.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Oregon Sunday 5pm (spring forward) - crackpot - 03-08-2020
Continued my habit this season of screaming at the TV "Why even have a rule against carrying if you are not gonna call it?!"
In this case, though, I was talking about Ki, so I was glad I wasn't there in person.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Oregon Sunday 5pm (spring forward) - martyup - 03-08-2020
(03-08-2020, 10:55 AM)crackpot Wrote: Continued my habit this season of screaming at the TV "Why even have a rule against carrying if you are not gonna call it?!"
In this case, though, I was talking about Ki, so I was glad I wasn't there in person.
Ionescu makes an art of carrying the ball. Ki is an amateur compared to her.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Oregon Sunday 5pm (spring forward) - BobK - 03-08-2020
You all the rules changed years ago. Get used to it. Lol
Three hour games while reviewing most calls ? No thank you
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Oregon Sunday 5pm (spring forward) - lex24 - 03-08-2020
(03-08-2020, 11:04 AM)BobK Wrote: You all the rules changed years ago. Get used to it. Lol
Three hour games while reviewing most calls ? No thank you
Yes, Michael Jordan.
(03-08-2020, 10:51 AM)martyup Wrote: While watching the game on the Pac-12 network, on many of the ref calls that initially appeared to be wrong were confirmed to be correct on the replay when shown from a different camera angle. However, some calls or non-calls were clearly wrong. But, it is a difficult job to ref basketball.
I would love to see a rapid video review system in basketball for all calls. Anything could be reviewed. If the video booth saw an incorrect call, play would be stopped and the refs would have to review the video on courtside monitors. They could then overrule or confirm the call. Such a system would not need to use broadcast quality cameras. Several small static wireless cameras could be placed around the court and fed to the video booth. No camera operators would be required. With the right software application, one or two people in the video booth could monitor the action. The head ref could wear a bluetooth earpiece to communicate with the video booth.
This system could be portable enough to travel with each officiating crew. Or, each NCAA venue could be required to acquire and install the system at the facility. It would be important to have hardware and software consistency across all venues. This way, a failed camera or monitor could be quickly replaced and the video booth operators would only need to know one system.
The person that creates such a hardware and software system and contracts with the NCAA, and perhaps the NBA, could do very well financially.
Basketball is a game of flow, Marty. Nothing would kill that more than dozens of replays....
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Oregon Sunday 5pm (spring forward) - 81alum - 03-08-2020
Can't believe the championship game is the first game I will have to miss watching live this year. I'm glad ESPN makes the replays so easily available.
As far as replay--there was a game earlier this year when Missy replayed several calls. The game went 2:15 and the fans were grumbling. I'd be all for replay when the technology develops sufficiently to speed them up to a few seconds--but sheesh each time Missy went to the monitor it seemed to stretch out for five minutes.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Oregon Sunday 5pm (spring forward) - 2006alum - 03-08-2020
(03-08-2020, 01:17 PM)81alum Wrote: Can't believe the championship game is the first game I will have to miss watching live this year. I'm glad ESPN makes the replays so easily available.I remember that game, and it was comical. One of the calls at issue was super minor to begin with and IIRC they stopped play for something like 3-4 minutes to check the call. Not only does it stretch the game for fans, but it kills all momentum for a team in the midst of a run, and it also functions like giving both teams extra timeouts, with alters incentives to push tempo, etc.
As far as replay--there was a game earlier this year when Missy replayed several calls. The game went 2:15 and the fans were grumbling. I'd be all for replay when the technology develops sufficiently to speed them up to a few seconds--but sheesh each time Missy went to the monitor it seemed to stretch out for five minutes.
My overarching preference would simply be that refs err on the side of calling 50-50 contact. What drives me crazy with Missy is her over-enforcement of the ticky-tacky rules but then often letting the heavy physical contact go. And many of the other PAC-12 refs let contact go that would qualify as an assault and battery under tort law, some of which leads to injuries, like Fingall's against U$C last year. That, much much more than carrying the ball, is what I want stamped out. A few folks said it earlier this season, but it's almost gotten to where I don't enjoy watching because I'm just worried about who's going to go down next and stay down next.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Oregon Sunday 5pm (spring forward) - petersalas - 03-08-2020
I’m with you on the having to miss it live... why oh why did the family make plans to have a Sunday dinner today... and at 5:00pm to top it off.. I’m hoping that watching on DVR has different outcome that the the other 3 ESPN games I got to see live... I don’t have PAC 12 network so there are very few TV games I get to watch..
(03-08-2020, 01:17 PM)81alum Wrote: Can't believe the championship game is the first game I will have to miss watching live this year. I'm glad ESPN makes the replays so easily available.
As far as replay--there was a game earlier this year when Missy replayed several calls. The game went 2:15 and the fans were grumbling. I'd be all for replay when the technology develops sufficiently to speed them up to a few seconds--but sheesh each time Missy went to the monitor it seemed to stretch out for five minutes.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Oregon Sunday 5pm (spring forward) - WBB fan - 03-08-2020
(03-08-2020, 09:30 AM)BobK Wrote: WBB fan I had the same experience. But just a couple behind me insisting the refs had been paid off and how dare they call a foul on oregon. That said I’m surrounded by duck fans who also just love the game. I’m in section 119
We're in section 120, pretty low down, now just to left of Stanford bench since the Card is now the lower seed. It's a great spot to be. And yes, surrounded by Duck fans, very partisan, also enthusiastic. Actually, I love to see their excitement and the support for their team. We had several most interesting and friendly conversations. Also gotten a bit of insight into Sabally and Hebard health situations. According to fan behind me, Sabally tweaked an ankle a week or so ago and it's still bothering her, and Hebard may be favoring an ankle because of a tweak at the beginning of the Utah game.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Oregon Sunday 5pm (spring forward) - BobK - 03-08-2020
No Missy. Hope that’s good
Missy is the monitor ref ?
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Oregon Sunday 5pm (spring forward) - WBB fan - 03-08-2020
(03-08-2020, 04:46 PM)BobK Wrote: No Missy. Hope that’s good
Missy is the monitor ref ?
Yes,sitting right there.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Oregon Sunday 5pm (spring forward) - BobK - 03-08-2020
I know you wwbfan. Hi
Feed the Kiana
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Oregon Sunday 5pm (spring forward) - JJJ - 03-08-2020
Surprised a little by the number of threes taken early in the shot clock (no complaints when Ki drains them) and then a lot more standing around on O than I would’ve expected. In Tara I trust.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Oregon Sunday 5pm (spring forward) - Phogge - 03-08-2020
Bobbbbb, remember what happens in Vegas.........