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MBB: Stanford vs. #17/19 San Diego State Game Thread - burger - 11-15-2022

A (remote) chance for a good win tonight, as #17 San Diego State visits Maples.  Game at 6pm on P-12 Network.

My bold prediction: we will shoot better than 1-16 on three pointers.

RE: MBB: home vs. #17/19 San Diego State, Tue. 7pm - BobK - 11-15-2022

The game is at 6 :)

RE: MBB: home vs. #17/19 San Diego State, Tue. 7pm - burger - 11-15-2022

(11-15-2022, 01:34 PM)BobK Wrote:  The game is at 6 :)

Not Mountain Time!  (Fixed it--thanks)

RE: MBB: home vs. #17/19 San Diego State, Tue. 6pm - martyup - 11-15-2022

Time to ball!
Walton just said how glad he is that Muir has not fired Hasse.
Silva's man hit a 3, then hit another 3 and got fouled by Silva.  He made the FT, meaning Silva gave up 7 points in less than 1 minute of play.  We are down 5-14.
And another 3 over Silva.  That's 10 points.

RE: MBB: Stanford vs. #17/19 San Diego State Game Thread - BostonCard - 11-15-2022

I see the suckage that is the men's basketball team continues unabated from the disaster that was the game against Wisconsin.  We are less than 10 minutes in, and SDSU has a 20-9 lead.

BC

RE: MBB: Stanford vs. #17/19 San Diego State Game Thread - JJJ - 11-15-2022

Listening to Varsity Network today. 
Hope Reynaud has a monster game!

RE: MBB: Stanford vs. #17/19 San Diego State Game Thread - burger - 11-15-2022

Spencer Jones not starting again.  Because it's great coaching to have your best player come off the bench. /s

Speaking of coaching, SDSU's coach has a 75% win rate. Let's hire him.

RE: MBB: Stanford vs. #17/19 San Diego State Game Thread - Madera86 - 11-15-2022

Just tuned in. How come no one on our team has any points?

RE: MBB: Stanford vs. #17/19 San Diego State Game Thread - BostonCard - 11-15-2022

(11-15-2022, 07:25 PM)Madera86 Wrote:  Just tuned in. How come no one on our team has any points?

Ingram has 5.  (Spencer) Jones, Murrell, Angel, and Reynaud each have 2.  12 minutes into the game, and we have 0 assists to 3 turnovers.

BC

RE: MBB: Stanford vs. #17/19 San Diego State Game Thread - lex24 - 11-15-2022

(11-15-2022, 07:25 PM)Madera86 Wrote:  Just tuned in. How come no one on our team has any points?

Cause they can’t beat SDSU off dribble and have shot air balls on  two wide open 3’s.

RE: MBB: Stanford vs. #17/19 San Diego State Game Thread - BostonCard - 11-15-2022

woo hoo, an assist.  Our A/T is 1/3.  

And to the person who said we will shoot better on 3's, we are only 10 misses away from matching last week (currently 1/6).

BC

RE: MBB: Stanford vs. #17/19 San Diego State Game Thread - lex24 - 11-15-2022

Tough to win when you can’t shoot and your opponent is significantly quicker.

RE: MBB: Stanford vs. #17/19 San Diego State Game Thread - winflop - 11-15-2022

Took advantage of the offer of free tickets. Aztecs are getting many more open looks, and they are making more of them than we are

Some decent defense in the last five minutes kept us within striking distance. Only down 11 at the half against a faster, more talented, and better coached team

RE: MBB: Stanford vs. #17/19 San Diego State Game Thread - lex24 - 11-15-2022

Wow.  That’s the third open three air ball.  I truly can’t remember last time I saw that.
(11-15-2022, 07:49 PM)winflop Wrote:  Took advantage of the offer of free tickets. Aztecs are getting many more open looks, and they are making more of them than we are

Some decent defense in the last five minutes kept us within striking distance. Only down 11 at the half against a faster, more talented, and better coached team

Amazing how faster and more talented helps a coach look better…..

RE: MBB: Stanford vs. #17/19 San Diego State Game Thread - doubledub - 11-15-2022

The offense we run is dumb. Harrison Ingram is routinely being guarded by someone much smaller, but we have him floating on the perimeter. And in the first half we had him bringing the ball up the Court. What kind of stupidity is this? Post him up!

RE: MBB: Stanford vs. #17/19 San Diego State Game Thread - winflop - 11-15-2022

(11-15-2022, 08:12 PM)lex24 Wrote:  Wow.  That’s the third open three air ball.  I truly can’t remember last time I saw that.
(11-15-2022, 07:49 PM)winflop Wrote:  Took advantage of the offer of free tickets. Aztecs are getting many more open looks, and they are making more of them than we are

Some decent defense in the last five minutes kept us within striking distance. Only down 11 at the half against a faster, more talented, and better coached team

Amazing how faster and more talented helps a coach look better…..

Or maybe it’s the outcome of better coaching…

I bet SDSU doesn’t have four top 25 recruiting classes, and yet they are clearly the better team.

RE: MBB: Stanford vs. #17/19 San Diego State Game Thread - lex24 - 11-15-2022

(11-15-2022, 08:15 PM)winflop Wrote:  
(11-15-2022, 08:12 PM)lex24 Wrote:  Wow.  That’s the third open three air ball.  I truly can’t remember last time I saw that.
(11-15-2022, 07:49 PM)winflop Wrote:  Took advantage of the offer of free tickets. Aztecs are getting many more open looks, and they are making more of them than we are

Some decent defense in the last five minutes kept us within striking distance. Only down 11 at the half against a faster, more talented, and better coached team

Amazing how faster and more talented helps a coach look better…..

Four top 25 recruiting classes and this is what we get? Sorry but I bet SDSU doesn’t have that kind of recruiting track record, and yet they are clearly the better team.

  I truly don’t care about recruiting rankings. Look at the teams  on the floor and if you can suggest to me that Stanford has close to the talent San Diego state does well we’re watching different basketball games. The quickness difference is massive. And Stanford’s shooting is atrocious. With good looks

RE: MBB: Stanford vs. #17/19 San Diego State Game Thread - burger - 11-15-2022

(11-15-2022, 08:14 PM)doubledub Wrote:  The offense we run is dumb. Harrison Ingram is routinely being guarded by someone much smaller, but we have him floating on the perimeter. And in the first half we had him bringing the ball up the Court. What kind of stupidity is this? Post him up!

I've been saying the same for years.  We have Raynaud dribbling from outside the 3-point line.  Criminal misuse of players.

RE: MBB: Stanford vs. #17/19 San Diego State Game Thread - BostonCard - 11-15-2022

(11-15-2022, 08:18 PM)lex24 Wrote:    I truly don’t care about recruiting rankings. Look at the teams  on the floor and if you can suggest to me that Stanford has close to the talent San Diego state does well we’re watching different basketball games. The quickness difference is massive. And Stanford’s shooting is atrocious. With good looks

As with the football team, the issue is that players don't develop under Haase, and the way they are used, the whole is less than the sum of its parts. Someone like Mike Montgomery, given a couple years to develop the players, could have gotten them to play well enough to defeat SDSU.  We regularly held our own against teams with more athletic and quicker players, and that is because Montgomery developed players.

BC

RE: MBB: Stanford vs. #17/19 San Diego State Game Thread - lex24 - 11-15-2022

(11-15-2022, 08:18 PM)burger Wrote:  
(11-15-2022, 08:14 PM)doubledub Wrote:  The offense we run is dumb. Harrison Ingram is routinely being guarded by someone much smaller, but we have him floating on the perimeter. And in the first half we had him bringing the ball up the Court. What kind of stupidity is this? Post him up!

I've been saying the same for years.  We have Raynaud dribbling from outside the 3-point line.  Criminal misuse of players.

Ingram is  the one guy you have they can really create and distribute the ball. You’re not gonna waste him by sticking him down on the block. Do you even know if he can play with his back to the basket? Post play is not something that you get a whole lot of these days.  

The days of taking a seven footer (Reynaud) and sticking him on the block are over. It’s not the way the games played anymore. It’s a simple as that
(11-15-2022, 08:26 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  
(11-15-2022, 08:18 PM)lex24 Wrote:    I truly don’t care about recruiting rankings. Look at the teams  on the floor and if you can suggest to me that Stanford has close to the talent San Diego state does well we’re watching different basketball games. The quickness difference is massive. And Stanford’s shooting is atrocious. With good looks

As with the football team, the issue is that players don't develop under Haase, and the way they are used, the whole is less than the sum of its parts. Someone like Mike Montgomery, given a couple years to develop the players, could have gotten them to play well enough to defeat SDSU.  We regularly held our own against teams with more athletic and quicker players, and that is because Montgomery developed players.

BC

No.  That is because Montgomery coached in a completely different era. At the time when you actually could take bigs and stick them down in the block. Post players. Like Adam Keene.  Because they actually knew how to do it. The game is not played that way anymore BC. It’s simply not.

Obviously he was a very good coach. And I suspect he would have adjusted to today’s style. But if you look at those teams he would have a Reveno , Keefe, Wright, bigs that play down low. Few and far between these days