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NCAA to announce Oregon slap-on-wrist (bill?) penalties Wednesday - washingtonismoney - 06-25-2013
https://twitter.com/BFeldmanCBS/status/349576520811024384
Seems like the cognoscenti are expecting a whole lot of nothing.
Re: NCAA to announce Oregon slap-on-wrist (bill?) penalties Wednesday - stupac2 - 06-25-2013
(06-25-2013, 10:52 AM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:Seems like the cognoscenti are expecting a whole lot of nothing.
Most of the prognostication I've seen since the start of this whole saga has been saying that Oregon will get off relatively lightly. Loss of a few scholarships, no bowl ban, etc.
I mean, if the NCAA can't bring itself to seriously punish schools that actively cheat to keep players eligible, why would we expect them to do something about a recruiting violation that probably didn't even help Oregon that much?
Re: NCAA to announce Oregon slap-on-wrist (bill?) penalties Wednesday - Roberton3 - 06-25-2013
(06-25-2013, 10:55 AM)stupac2 link Wrote:I mean, if the NCAA can't bring itself to seriously punish schools that actively cheat to keep players eligible, why would we expect them to do something about a recruiting violation that probably didn't even help Oregon that much?
Because Oregon isn't in the SEC?
Re: NCAA to announce Oregon slap-on-wrist (bill?) penalties Wednesday - fullmetal - 06-25-2013
Don't roast your golden (Phil Knight) goose, I guess =\
Re: NCAA to announce Oregon slap-on-wrist (bill?) penalties Wednesday - stupac2 - 06-25-2013
(06-25-2013, 03:09 PM)Roberton3 link Wrote:Because Oregon isn't in the SEC?
To be fair, the schools I'm thinking of (Miami and I believe UNC, though I may be misremembering that one) are both in the ACC.
Re: NCAA to announce Oregon slap-on-wrist (bill?) penalties Wednesday - rudruff - 06-25-2013
More about continuing to antagonize SC fans.
Re: NCAA to announce Oregon slap-on-wrist (bill?) penalties Wednesday - Hank 91 - 06-25-2013
There's a fairly amusing Twitter tag going right now -- #OregonSanctions
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23OregonSanctions&src=hash
Re: NCAA to announce Oregon slap-on-wrist (bill?) penalties Wednesday - fullmetal - 06-25-2013
They'll be announced at 11AM ET.
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/3/3/2028576/oregon-football-will-lyles-baron-flenory-cliff-harris
#OregonSanctionsRumors is pretty lively too.
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23OregonSanctionRumors&src=hash
Re: NCAA to announce Oregon slap-on-wrist (bill?) penalties Wednesday - washingtonismoney - 06-26-2013
Bruce Feldman reporting:
Chip Kelly hit with a meaningless 18-month show cause penalty
No bowl ban
Minor scholarship reductions over next two years.
Meaningless, essentially.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/bruce-feldman/22533843/no-bowl-ban-for-ducks-kelly-hit-with-show-cause-penalty
Re: NCAA to announce Oregon slap-on-wrist (bill?) penalties Wednesday - yvonne - 06-26-2013
The funniest part was the Kelly penalty.
Re: NCAA to announce Oregon slap-on-wrist (bill?) penalties Wednesday - stupac2 - 06-26-2013
(06-26-2013, 08:31 AM)garvin link Wrote:Could be the Kelly part was established some time ago, and he got wind of it. That might explain his peculiar actions in January, when he said he was staying at Oregon to close out unfinished business, which apparently took only a week to resolve, whereupon he went to the NFL after all.
Could be, but I thought that was just Chip being Chip.
And yes, these penalties do seem very minor, basically in line with what most people were expecting.
Re: NCAA to announce Oregon slap-on-wrist (bill?) penalties Wednesday - FarmBoy - 06-26-2013
I find it interesting that many regulars of the ESPN blog are saying "this is good for the conference." While I don't want Oregon to be crippled, I would rate this as bad for college football amateurism. If I were a recruiter, I would look at this as cart blanche to go out and use guys like Lyles and look forward to a similar slap on the wrist. Given that I don't think Stanford uses guys like Lyles (or at least not the extent of other schools), I think this puts us at a disadvantage in recruiting in general.
I'm not up on 100% of the "facts" of the case, but it all seemed pretty seedy and clear that Oregon was flouting the rules on this one. Are there new rules in place to clear up any of the "grey area" that Oregon was exploiting to make what they did a more clear violation going forward? If not, it's going to get ugly out there.
Re: NCAA to announce Oregon slap-on-wrist (bill?) penalties Wednesday - fullmetal - 06-26-2013
Andy Staples at SI.com thinks the penalties were appropriately punishing the coaches and not the players. I think punishing the institutions for hiring coaches who flout rules or otherwise escape oversight is appropriate as well, but I'm not the NCAA COI.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130626/oregon-ducks-ncaa-sanctions/index.html
Re: NCAA to announce Oregon slap-on-wrist (bill?) penalties Wednesday - fullmetal - 06-26-2013
Another SI.com article, this time a little more critical from Stewart Mandel.
Quote:Fans of rival schools, most notably sanction-crippled USC, will surely howl that Oregon just got away with NCAA bylaw robbery. That might be overstating it a tad, but Wednesday's announcement certainly feels like an anticlimactic result following a 27-month investigation. Silly us in the media for considering this case a window into the NCAA's purported crackdown on third-party influencers in recruiting. Instead, the committee's 30-page report reads like a gentle admonishment against the Oregon program for administrative errors.
For that, "The Cleaner" Michael Glazier, the choice attorney for numerous universities (Ohio State, UCF, et. al.) facing the NCAA enforcement process, earned every bit of his billable hours by working this case for Oregon.
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However a given fan feels, the end result is that Oregon's case will go down as an afterthought in NCAA infractions history. Boise State got stiffer penalties for letting incoming players sleep on current players' couches. As NCAA compliance expert John Infante wrote Wednesday, the entire system is just more than a month away from a complete overhaul (a larger committee, stiffer penalties), with only this and the much-chronicled Miami case remaining on the lame-duck committee's docket. It almost seemed as though the committee simply wanted to push the Oregon case off the deck.
Maybe that's why the committee accepted at face value the absurd notion that Lyles was a "recruiting service provider." If NCAA penalties are supposed to deter others from committing the same crimes, Wednesday's announcement will do nothing to scare off other coaching staffs from paying middlemen to attain access to potential recruits. Perhaps a current college head coach will look at Kelly's show-cause penalty and start paying closer attention to his staff's activities. Or perhaps that coach will call his agent to begin securing an NFL parachute.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130626/oregon-ducks-ncaa-sanctions-chip-kelly/