[washingtonismoney]

https://twitter.com/BFeldmanCBS/status/3...0811024384

Seems like the cognoscenti are expecting a whole lot of nothing.

[washingtonismoney]

https://twitter.com/BFeldmanCBS/status/3...0811024384

Seems like the cognoscenti are expecting a whole lot of nothing.

[stupac2]

Seems like the cognoscenti are expecting a whole lot of nothing.

Most of the prognostication I've seen since the start of this whole saga has been saying that Oregon will get off relatively lightly. Loss of a few scholarships, no bowl ban, etc.

I mean, if the NCAA can't bring itself to seriously punish schools that actively cheat to keep players eligible, why would we expect them to do something about a recruiting violation that probably didn't even help Oregon that much?

[stupac2]

Seems like the cognoscenti are expecting a whole lot of nothing.

Most of the prognostication I've seen since the start of this whole saga has been saying that Oregon will get off relatively lightly. Loss of a few scholarships, no bowl ban, etc.

I mean, if the NCAA can't bring itself to seriously punish schools that actively cheat to keep players eligible, why would we expect them to do something about a recruiting violation that probably didn't even help Oregon that much?

[Roberton3]

I mean, if the NCAA can't bring itself to seriously punish schools that actively cheat to keep players eligible, why would we expect them to do something about a recruiting violation that probably didn't even help Oregon that much?

Because Oregon isn't in the SEC?

[Roberton3]

I mean, if the NCAA can't bring itself to seriously punish schools that actively cheat to keep players eligible, why would we expect them to do something about a recruiting violation that probably didn't even help Oregon that much?

Because Oregon isn't in the SEC?

[fullmetal]

Don't roast your golden (Phil Knight) goose, I guess =\

[fullmetal]

Don't roast your golden (Phil Knight) goose, I guess =\

[stupac2]

Because Oregon isn't in the SEC?

To be fair, the schools I'm thinking of (Miami and I believe UNC, though I may be misremembering that one) are both in the ACC.

[stupac2]

Because Oregon isn't in the SEC?

To be fair, the schools I'm thinking of (Miami and I believe UNC, though I may be misremembering that one) are both in the ACC.

[rudruff]

More about continuing to antagonize SC fans.

[rudruff]

More about continuing to antagonize SC fans.

[Hank 91]

There's a fairly amusing Twitter tag going right now -- #OregonSanctions

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23OregonSa...s&src=hash

[Hank 91]

There's a fairly amusing Twitter tag going right now -- #OregonSanctions

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23OregonSa...s&src=hash

[fullmetal]

They'll be announced at 11AM ET.

http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/20...iff-harris


#OregonSanctionsRumors is pretty lively too.

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23OregonSa...s&src=hash

[fullmetal]

They'll be announced at 11AM ET.

http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/20...iff-harris


#OregonSanctionsRumors is pretty lively too.

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23OregonSa...s&src=hash

[washingtonismoney]

Bruce Feldman reporting:

Chip Kelly hit with a meaningless 18-month show cause penalty
No bowl ban
Minor scholarship reductions over next two years.

Meaningless, essentially.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...se-penalty

[washingtonismoney]

Bruce Feldman reporting:

Chip Kelly hit with a meaningless 18-month show cause penalty
No bowl ban
Minor scholarship reductions over next two years.

Meaningless, essentially.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...se-penalty

[yvonne]

The funniest part was the Kelly penalty.

[yvonne]

The funniest part was the Kelly penalty.

[stupac2]

Could be the Kelly part was established some time ago, and he got wind of it. That might explain his peculiar actions in January, when he said he was staying at Oregon to close out unfinished business, which apparently took only a week to resolve, whereupon he went to the NFL after all.

Could be, but I thought that was just Chip being Chip.

And yes, these penalties do seem very minor, basically in line with what most people were expecting.

[stupac2]

Could be the Kelly part was established some time ago, and he got wind of it. That might explain his peculiar actions in January, when he said he was staying at Oregon to close out unfinished business, which apparently took only a week to resolve, whereupon he went to the NFL after all.

Could be, but I thought that was just Chip being Chip.

And yes, these penalties do seem very minor, basically in line with what most people were expecting.

[FarmBoy]

I find it interesting that many regulars of the ESPN blog are saying "this is good for the conference." While I don't want Oregon to be crippled, I would rate this as bad for college football amateurism. If I were a recruiter, I would look at this as cart blanche to go out and use guys like Lyles and look forward to a similar slap on the wrist. Given that I don't think Stanford uses guys like Lyles (or at least not the extent of other schools), I think this puts us at a disadvantage in recruiting in general.

I'm not up on 100% of the "facts" of the case, but it all seemed pretty seedy and clear that Oregon was flouting the rules on this one. Are there new rules in place to clear up any of the "grey area" that Oregon was exploiting to make what they did a more clear violation going forward? If not, it's going to get ugly out there.

[FarmBoy]

I find it interesting that many regulars of the ESPN blog are saying "this is good for the conference." While I don't want Oregon to be crippled, I would rate this as bad for college football amateurism. If I were a recruiter, I would look at this as cart blanche to go out and use guys like Lyles and look forward to a similar slap on the wrist. Given that I don't think Stanford uses guys like Lyles (or at least not the extent of other schools), I think this puts us at a disadvantage in recruiting in general.

I'm not up on 100% of the "facts" of the case, but it all seemed pretty seedy and clear that Oregon was flouting the rules on this one. Are there new rules in place to clear up any of the "grey area" that Oregon was exploiting to make what they did a more clear violation going forward? If not, it's going to get ugly out there.

[fullmetal]

Andy Staples at SI.com thinks the penalties were appropriately punishing the coaches and not the players.  I think punishing the institutions for hiring coaches who flout rules or otherwise escape oversight is appropriate as well, but I'm not the NCAA COI.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college...index.html

[fullmetal]

Andy Staples at SI.com thinks the penalties were appropriately punishing the coaches and not the players.  I think punishing the institutions for hiring coaches who flout rules or otherwise escape oversight is appropriate as well, but I'm not the NCAA COI.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college...index.html

[fullmetal]

Another SI.com article, this time a little more critical from Stewart Mandel.

Fans of rival schools, most notably sanction-crippled USC, will surely howl that Oregon just got away with NCAA bylaw robbery. That might be overstating it a tad, but Wednesday's announcement certainly feels like an anticlimactic result following a 27-month investigation. Silly us in the media for considering this case a window into the NCAA's purported crackdown on third-party influencers in recruiting. Instead, the committee's 30-page report reads like a gentle admonishment against the Oregon program for administrative errors.

For that, "The Cleaner" Michael Glazier, the choice attorney for numerous universities (Ohio State, UCF, et. al.) facing the NCAA enforcement process, earned every bit of his billable hours by working this case for Oregon.

...

However a given fan feels, the end result is that Oregon's case will go down as an afterthought in NCAA infractions history. Boise State got stiffer penalties for letting incoming players sleep on current players' couches. As NCAA compliance expert John Infante wrote Wednesday, the entire system is just more than a month away from a complete overhaul (a larger committee, stiffer penalties), with only this and the much-chronicled Miami case remaining on the lame-duck committee's docket. It almost seemed as though the committee simply wanted to push the Oregon case off the deck.

Maybe that's why the committee accepted at face value the absurd notion that Lyles was a "recruiting service provider." If NCAA penalties are supposed to deter others from committing the same crimes, Wednesday's announcement will do nothing to scare off other coaching staffs from paying middlemen to attain access to potential recruits. Perhaps a current college head coach will look at Kelly's show-cause penalty and start paying closer attention to his staff's activities. Or perhaps that coach will call his agent to begin securing an NFL parachute.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college...hip-kelly/

[fullmetal]

Another SI.com article, this time a little more critical from Stewart Mandel.

Fans of rival schools, most notably sanction-crippled USC, will surely howl that Oregon just got away with NCAA bylaw robbery. That might be overstating it a tad, but Wednesday's announcement certainly feels like an anticlimactic result following a 27-month investigation. Silly us in the media for considering this case a window into the NCAA's purported crackdown on third-party influencers in recruiting. Instead, the committee's 30-page report reads like a gentle admonishment against the Oregon program for administrative errors.

For that, "The Cleaner" Michael Glazier, the choice attorney for numerous universities (Ohio State, UCF, et. al.) facing the NCAA enforcement process, earned every bit of his billable hours by working this case for Oregon.

...

However a given fan feels, the end result is that Oregon's case will go down as an afterthought in NCAA infractions history. Boise State got stiffer penalties for letting incoming players sleep on current players' couches. As NCAA compliance expert John Infante wrote Wednesday, the entire system is just more than a month away from a complete overhaul (a larger committee, stiffer penalties), with only this and the much-chronicled Miami case remaining on the lame-duck committee's docket. It almost seemed as though the committee simply wanted to push the Oregon case off the deck.

Maybe that's why the committee accepted at face value the absurd notion that Lyles was a "recruiting service provider." If NCAA penalties are supposed to deter others from committing the same crimes, Wednesday's announcement will do nothing to scare off other coaching staffs from paying middlemen to attain access to potential recruits. Perhaps a current college head coach will look at Kelly's show-cause penalty and start paying closer attention to his staff's activities. Or perhaps that coach will call his agent to begin securing an NFL parachute.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college...hip-kelly/