10-12-2022, 03:15 PM
Wonderful result. I rarely comment on M&W Golf but I do appreciate all the good posts keeping The CardBoard informed about many sports.
(10-12-2022, 04:41 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: Stanford has 2 more fall tournaments. They host the Stanford Intercollegiate October 21-23 (presumably open to the public). Then they play in Hawaii at the P12 Preview Oct 31-Nov 2.
(10-12-2022, 04:41 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: Stanford has 2 more fall tournaments. They host the Stanford Intercollegiate October 21-23 (presumably open to the public). Then they play in Hawaii at the P12 Preview Oct 31-Nov 2.
(10-12-2022, 05:21 PM)winflop Wrote:(10-12-2022, 04:41 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: Stanford has 2 more fall tournaments. They host the Stanford Intercollegiate October 21-23 (presumably open to the public). Then they play in Hawaii at the P12 Preview Oct 31-Nov 2.
Yes the Stanford Intercollegiate (aka The Condi) is open to the public. However, the Hawaii tournament is at the ultra-private Nanea Golf Club and I doubt if you're on the Big Island you'd be able to watch it unless you're a member.
(10-12-2022, 05:21 PM)winflop Wrote:(10-12-2022, 04:41 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: Stanford has 2 more fall tournaments. They host the Stanford Intercollegiate October 21-23 (presumably open to the public). Then they play in Hawaii at the P12 Preview Oct 31-Nov 2.
Yes the Stanford Intercollegiate (aka The Condi) is open to the public. However, the Hawaii tournament is at the ultra-private Nanea Golf Club and I doubt if you're on the Big Island you'd be able to watch it unless you're a member.
(10-12-2022, 07:19 PM)Hulk01 Wrote:(10-12-2022, 05:21 PM)winflop Wrote:(10-12-2022, 04:41 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: Stanford has 2 more fall tournaments. They host the Stanford Intercollegiate October 21-23 (presumably open to the public). Then they play in Hawaii at the P12 Preview Oct 31-Nov 2.
Yes the Stanford Intercollegiate (aka The Condi) is open to the public. However, the Hawaii tournament is at the ultra-private Nanea Golf Club and I doubt if you're on the Big Island you'd be able to watch it unless you're a member.
On the day:
Ganne -3
Heck. -1
Zhang. -1
Engleman E (-3 on the back)
Seay. +5
On the entire event:
Heck. -6
Engleman -3
Zhang. -3
Ganne. -1
Seay. +7
(10-12-2022, 07:19 PM)Hulk01 Wrote:(10-12-2022, 05:21 PM)winflop Wrote:(10-12-2022, 04:41 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: Stanford has 2 more fall tournaments. They host the Stanford Intercollegiate October 21-23 (presumably open to the public). Then they play in Hawaii at the P12 Preview Oct 31-Nov 2.
Yes the Stanford Intercollegiate (aka The Condi) is open to the public. However, the Hawaii tournament is at the ultra-private Nanea Golf Club and I doubt if you're on the Big Island you'd be able to watch it unless you're a member.
On the day:
Ganne -3
Heck. -1
Zhang. -1
Engleman E (-3 on the back)
Seay. +5
On the entire event:
Heck. -6
Engleman -3
Zhang. -3
Ganne. -1
Seay. +7
(10-13-2022, 02:55 AM)GK3 Wrote: Like the Men, the ladies are still looking for a 5th. Although Seay looks like the first choice, I hope a few of the others get a chance to show if they can play when it counts.Do I recall correctly that, at least in the fall, the spots in the tournament lineup are determined by intra-team competition in the week preceding the tournament, and not by coach's decision? I like that approach, because a player has to show she can play when it counts in the intra-team competition in order to play when it counts in the tournament.
(10-13-2022, 02:55 AM)GK3 Wrote: Like the Men, the ladies are still looking for a 5th. Although Seay looks like the first choice, I hope a few of the others get a chance to show if they can play when it counts.Do I recall correctly that, at least in the fall, the spots in the tournament lineup are determined by intra-team competition in the week preceding the tournament, and not by coach's decision? I like that approach, because a player has to show she can play when it counts in the intra-team competition in order to play when it counts in the tournament.
(10-13-2022, 02:55 AM)GK3 Wrote: Like the Men, the ladies are still looking for a 5th. Although Seay looks like the first choice, I hope a few of the others get a chance to show if they can play when it counts.
Won't be long before the LPGA is full of Stanford Women. Can't hurt recruiting.
(10-13-2022, 02:55 AM)GK3 Wrote: Like the Men, the ladies are still looking for a 5th. Although Seay looks like the first choice, I hope a few of the others get a chance to show if they can play when it counts.
Won't be long before the LPGA is full of Stanford Women. Can't hurt recruiting.
(10-13-2022, 09:12 AM)winflop Wrote:(10-13-2022, 02:55 AM)GK3 Wrote: Like the Men, the ladies are still looking for a 5th. Although Seay looks like the first choice, I hope a few of the others get a chance to show if they can play when it counts.
Won't be long before the LPGA is full of Stanford Women. Can't hurt recruiting.
Seay isn't the 5th, Englemann is. Seay was 3-0 in match play at nationals last year and was the low amateur at the Chevron Championship (LPGA major) as well. My guess is she's actually 3rd although might slip to 4th if Ganne continues to play this well
(10-13-2022, 09:12 AM)winflop Wrote:(10-13-2022, 02:55 AM)GK3 Wrote: Like the Men, the ladies are still looking for a 5th. Although Seay looks like the first choice, I hope a few of the others get a chance to show if they can play when it counts.
Won't be long before the LPGA is full of Stanford Women. Can't hurt recruiting.
Seay isn't the 5th, Englemann is. Seay was 3-0 in match play at nationals last year and was the low amateur at the Chevron Championship (LPGA major) as well. My guess is she's actually 3rd although might slip to 4th if Ganne continues to play this well
(10-13-2022, 10:02 AM)Hulk01 Wrote:(10-13-2022, 09:12 AM)winflop Wrote:(10-13-2022, 02:55 AM)GK3 Wrote: Like the Men, the ladies are still looking for a 5th. Although Seay looks like the first choice, I hope a few of the others get a chance to show if they can play when it counts.
Won't be long before the LPGA is full of Stanford Women. Can't hurt recruiting.
Seay isn't the 5th, Englemann is. Seay was 3-0 in match play at nationals last year and was the low amateur at the Chevron Championship (LPGA major) as well. My guess is she's actually 3rd although might slip to 4th if Ganne continues to play this well
Seay is a returning first team All American. Assuming she returns to last season form, Englemann is our likely 5th. The only apparent contender for the spot is Caroline Strudza, who averaged 75.67 strokes in her only scored appearance this fall. (Seay is at 73.83, Englemann at 71.17.)
But there is vivid precedent for a first team All American not even making the first five in her following year: Lei Ye. A first team All American two seasons ago, she rarely played last season and hasn't played this fall.
(10-13-2022, 10:02 AM)Hulk01 Wrote:(10-13-2022, 09:12 AM)winflop Wrote:(10-13-2022, 02:55 AM)GK3 Wrote: Like the Men, the ladies are still looking for a 5th. Although Seay looks like the first choice, I hope a few of the others get a chance to show if they can play when it counts.
Won't be long before the LPGA is full of Stanford Women. Can't hurt recruiting.
Seay isn't the 5th, Englemann is. Seay was 3-0 in match play at nationals last year and was the low amateur at the Chevron Championship (LPGA major) as well. My guess is she's actually 3rd although might slip to 4th if Ganne continues to play this well
Seay is a returning first team All American. Assuming she returns to last season form, Englemann is our likely 5th. The only apparent contender for the spot is Caroline Strudza, who averaged 75.67 strokes in her only scored appearance this fall. (Seay is at 73.83, Englemann at 71.17.)
But there is vivid precedent for a first team All American not even making the first five in her following year: Lei Ye. A first team All American two seasons ago, she rarely played last season and hasn't played this fall.
(10-13-2022, 12:11 PM)GK3 Wrote:(10-13-2022, 10:02 AM)Hulk01 Wrote:(10-13-2022, 09:12 AM)winflop Wrote:(10-13-2022, 02:55 AM)GK3 Wrote: Like the Men, the ladies are still looking for a 5th. Although Seay looks like the first choice, I hope a few of the others get a chance to show if they can play when it counts.
Won't be long before the LPGA is full of Stanford Women. Can't hurt recruiting.
Seay isn't the 5th, Englemann is. Seay was 3-0 in match play at nationals last year and was the low amateur at the Chevron Championship (LPGA major) as well. My guess is she's actually 3rd although might slip to 4th if Ganne continues to play this well
Seay is a returning first team All American. Assuming she returns to last season form, Englemann is our likely 5th. The only apparent contender for the spot is Caroline Strudza, who averaged 75.67 strokes in her only scored appearance this fall. (Seay is at 73.83, Englemann at 71.17.)
But there is vivid precedent for a first team All American not even making the first five in her following year: Lei Ye. A first team All American two seasons ago, she rarely played last season and hasn't played this fall.
Thanks for the corrections, I appreciate it. On one hand I agree that playing your way to the 5th position makes a lot of sense, but on the other hand I am not sure it is the best way. I once played a round at Stanford well after graduating and was paired with a young guy who at the end was something like 6 under from the back tees. He admitted to being on the golf team but when actually playing in a tournament his game fell apart. Sometimes the Coach has a better idea than any of us of who should go out as the 5th. I am particularly impressed with Anne Walker. I think it speaks volumes that players stick with her and Stanford instead of opting for the transfer portal.
(10-13-2022, 12:11 PM)GK3 Wrote:(10-13-2022, 10:02 AM)Hulk01 Wrote:(10-13-2022, 09:12 AM)winflop Wrote:(10-13-2022, 02:55 AM)GK3 Wrote: Like the Men, the ladies are still looking for a 5th. Although Seay looks like the first choice, I hope a few of the others get a chance to show if they can play when it counts.
Won't be long before the LPGA is full of Stanford Women. Can't hurt recruiting.
Seay isn't the 5th, Englemann is. Seay was 3-0 in match play at nationals last year and was the low amateur at the Chevron Championship (LPGA major) as well. My guess is she's actually 3rd although might slip to 4th if Ganne continues to play this well
Seay is a returning first team All American. Assuming she returns to last season form, Englemann is our likely 5th. The only apparent contender for the spot is Caroline Strudza, who averaged 75.67 strokes in her only scored appearance this fall. (Seay is at 73.83, Englemann at 71.17.)
But there is vivid precedent for a first team All American not even making the first five in her following year: Lei Ye. A first team All American two seasons ago, she rarely played last season and hasn't played this fall.
Thanks for the corrections, I appreciate it. On one hand I agree that playing your way to the 5th position makes a lot of sense, but on the other hand I am not sure it is the best way. I once played a round at Stanford well after graduating and was paired with a young guy who at the end was something like 6 under from the back tees. He admitted to being on the golf team but when actually playing in a tournament his game fell apart. Sometimes the Coach has a better idea than any of us of who should go out as the 5th. I am particularly impressed with Anne Walker. I think it speaks volumes that players stick with her and Stanford instead of opting for the transfer portal.
(10-13-2022, 12:11 PM)GK3 Wrote: I am particularly impressed with Anne Walker. I think it speaks volumes that players stick with her and Stanford instead of opting for the transfer portal.or for the LPGA!
(10-13-2022, 12:11 PM)GK3 Wrote: I am particularly impressed with Anne Walker. I think it speaks volumes that players stick with her and Stanford instead of opting for the transfer portal.or for the LPGA!
(10-13-2022, 01:40 PM)winflop Wrote: We are VERY fortunate to have BOTH of the coaches we have. Keep in mind that Coach Ray has half the scholarships (3) that Coach Walker has (6) due to Title IX
(10-13-2022, 01:40 PM)winflop Wrote: We are VERY fortunate to have BOTH of the coaches we have. Keep in mind that Coach Ray has half the scholarships (3) that Coach Walker has (6) due to Title IX
(10-19-2022, 04:16 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(10-13-2022, 01:40 PM)winflop Wrote: We are VERY fortunate to have BOTH of the coaches we have. Keep in mind that Coach Ray has half the scholarships (3) that Coach Walker has (6) due to Title IX
I thought the scholarship limit in men’s golf was 4.5 not 3; did that change?
I should also note that Title IX does not specify scholarship limits in any given sport, the NCAA sets the limits. The requirements from Title IX broadly are that there are equal opportunities for men and women. The reason that most women’s sports offer more scholarships than the equivalent men’s sport is that any school that has football will be offering 85 men’s scholarships without any analogy for women. For this reason, most schools offer more women’s sports than men’s sports and more women’s scholarships in those sports. But that is a football issue, not a Title IX issue.
BC
(10-19-2022, 04:16 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(10-13-2022, 01:40 PM)winflop Wrote: We are VERY fortunate to have BOTH of the coaches we have. Keep in mind that Coach Ray has half the scholarships (3) that Coach Walker has (6) due to Title IX
I thought the scholarship limit in men’s golf was 4.5 not 3; did that change?
I should also note that Title IX does not specify scholarship limits in any given sport, the NCAA sets the limits. The requirements from Title IX broadly are that there are equal opportunities for men and women. The reason that most women’s sports offer more scholarships than the equivalent men’s sport is that any school that has football will be offering 85 men’s scholarships without any analogy for women. For this reason, most schools offer more women’s sports than men’s sports and more women’s scholarships in those sports. But that is a football issue, not a Title IX issue.
BC
(10-20-2022, 10:36 AM)winflop Wrote: My understanding is that men's golf has 3 and women's golf has 5 or 6 but that could be wrong I don't have a good source. And yes, Title IX doesn't dictate by sport it only says that you have to have the same number of overall men's and women's athletic scholarships. It's up to the AD to allocate them, but because of football women's teams almost always have more scholarships than their men's counterparts
(10-20-2022, 10:36 AM)winflop Wrote: My understanding is that men's golf has 3 and women's golf has 5 or 6 but that could be wrong I don't have a good source. And yes, Title IX doesn't dictate by sport it only says that you have to have the same number of overall men's and women's athletic scholarships. It's up to the AD to allocate them, but because of football women's teams almost always have more scholarships than their men's counterparts