02-09-2025, 10:17 AM
I just wonder what's wrong with Doncic. I have to think there is something that Dallas knows that no one else does.
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02-09-2025, 10:31 AM
(02-09-2025, 10:17 AM)Mick Wrote: I just wonder what's wrong with Doncic. I have to think there is that Dallas knows that no one else does.The alternate explanation is that Dallas THINKS they know something about Doncic that no one else does. It could be as simple as believing he will never take care of himself, will get injured a lot and will break down at a young age. Dallas therefore should not pay him a super-max contract and get what they can while they can. Of course, "knowing" something like that is impossible. It is a "best guess". It will play out and Dallas may look like fools, geniuses, or somewhere in between.
(02-09-2025, 10:17 AM)Mick Wrote: I just wonder what's wrong with Doncic. I have to think there is that Dallas knows that no one else does.The alternate explanation is that Dallas THINKS they know something about Doncic that no one else does. It could be as simple as believing he will never take care of himself, will get injured a lot and will break down at a young age. Dallas therefore should not pay him a super-max contract and get what they can while they can. Of course, "knowing" something like that is impossible. It is a "best guess". It will play out and Dallas may look like fools, geniuses, or somewhere in between.
02-10-2025, 02:26 PM
looks like Anthony Davis will have to miss a few weeks. strained an adductor muscle (i didn't even know that such muscles existed).
https://www.nba.com/news/anthony-davis-m...iple-weeks
https://www.nba.com/news/anthony-davis-m...iple-weeks
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looks like Anthony Davis will have to miss a few weeks. strained an adductor muscle (i didn't even know that such muscles existed).
https://www.nba.com/news/anthony-davis-m...iple-weeks
https://www.nba.com/news/anthony-davis-m...iple-weeks
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02-10-2025, 07:57 PM
(02-10-2025, 03:01 PM)CompSci87 Wrote:(02-10-2025, 02:26 PM)newguy Wrote: adductor muscle (i didn't even know that such muscles existed).
If you got a cramp in one of yours, you'd notice its existence right away! (They are painful and tough to stretch out.)
sounds like you have some experience. and probably didn't enjoy it.
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(02-10-2025, 03:01 PM)CompSci87 Wrote:(02-10-2025, 02:26 PM)newguy Wrote: adductor muscle (i didn't even know that such muscles existed).
If you got a cramp in one of yours, you'd notice its existence right away! (They are painful and tough to stretch out.)
sounds like you have some experience. and probably didn't enjoy it.
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02-11-2025, 10:20 AM
Probably the worst trade i've ever seen, both in its execution and outcome. The execution part is obvious, they got a paltry return by not shopping Doncic around. Even if they wanted AD, the return should have been AD, Austin Reaves, and 2 FRPs instead of AD and 1. Many trades look bad in hindsight once all the picks convey, players get old/hurt, etc. this one was brutal from the announcement.
The very concept of the trade is ridiculous. You just don't trade away a top 3 NBA player who is 25 years old. You just don't. Say what you want about his conditioning, he can roll out of bed in the morning and drop 30 points on efficient shooting numbers. The ability to reliably generate efficient half court offense is the most valuable skill in the NBA, as demonstrated by the Warriors clear lack of said ability prior to getting Jimmy Butler. Jokic looks doughy too. He's still the best player in the NBA.
I don't buy any of the conspiracies i see floating around. Dallas is a major market, no one is willingly moving from it. To me this comes down to a GM who believed strongly that you can't build your franchise around someone who is not of the Kobe/MJ killer mindset. Don't get me wrong, you want your star to have amazing talent and drive. But sometimes you need to settle for amazing talent. Shaq is the classic example of talent winning out. Jokic just wants to go ride horses once the season is done. And its not like Anthony "every other Day"vis is the example of a killer instinct.
The very concept of the trade is ridiculous. You just don't trade away a top 3 NBA player who is 25 years old. You just don't. Say what you want about his conditioning, he can roll out of bed in the morning and drop 30 points on efficient shooting numbers. The ability to reliably generate efficient half court offense is the most valuable skill in the NBA, as demonstrated by the Warriors clear lack of said ability prior to getting Jimmy Butler. Jokic looks doughy too. He's still the best player in the NBA.
I don't buy any of the conspiracies i see floating around. Dallas is a major market, no one is willingly moving from it. To me this comes down to a GM who believed strongly that you can't build your franchise around someone who is not of the Kobe/MJ killer mindset. Don't get me wrong, you want your star to have amazing talent and drive. But sometimes you need to settle for amazing talent. Shaq is the classic example of talent winning out. Jokic just wants to go ride horses once the season is done. And its not like Anthony "every other Day"vis is the example of a killer instinct.
Probably the worst trade i've ever seen, both in its execution and outcome. The execution part is obvious, they got a paltry return by not shopping Doncic around. Even if they wanted AD, the return should have been AD, Austin Reaves, and 2 FRPs instead of AD and 1. Many trades look bad in hindsight once all the picks convey, players get old/hurt, etc. this one was brutal from the announcement.
The very concept of the trade is ridiculous. You just don't trade away a top 3 NBA player who is 25 years old. You just don't. Say what you want about his conditioning, he can roll out of bed in the morning and drop 30 points on efficient shooting numbers. The ability to reliably generate efficient half court offense is the most valuable skill in the NBA, as demonstrated by the Warriors clear lack of said ability prior to getting Jimmy Butler. Jokic looks doughy too. He's still the best player in the NBA.
I don't buy any of the conspiracies i see floating around. Dallas is a major market, no one is willingly moving from it. To me this comes down to a GM who believed strongly that you can't build your franchise around someone who is not of the Kobe/MJ killer mindset. Don't get me wrong, you want your star to have amazing talent and drive. But sometimes you need to settle for amazing talent. Shaq is the classic example of talent winning out. Jokic just wants to go ride horses once the season is done. And its not like Anthony "every other Day"vis is the example of a killer instinct.
The very concept of the trade is ridiculous. You just don't trade away a top 3 NBA player who is 25 years old. You just don't. Say what you want about his conditioning, he can roll out of bed in the morning and drop 30 points on efficient shooting numbers. The ability to reliably generate efficient half court offense is the most valuable skill in the NBA, as demonstrated by the Warriors clear lack of said ability prior to getting Jimmy Butler. Jokic looks doughy too. He's still the best player in the NBA.
I don't buy any of the conspiracies i see floating around. Dallas is a major market, no one is willingly moving from it. To me this comes down to a GM who believed strongly that you can't build your franchise around someone who is not of the Kobe/MJ killer mindset. Don't get me wrong, you want your star to have amazing talent and drive. But sometimes you need to settle for amazing talent. Shaq is the classic example of talent winning out. Jokic just wants to go ride horses once the season is done. And its not like Anthony "every other Day"vis is the example of a killer instinct.
02-24-2025, 11:57 AM
(02-11-2025, 10:20 AM)gocard14 Wrote: The very concept of the trade is ridiculous. You just don't trade away a top 3 NBA player who is 25 years old. You just don't.
You can say that again. The Warriors traded Robert Parish when he was 26. All he did was help the Celtics to multiple NBA championships...and incidentally, Parish is the NBA's career leader in games played. They also traded Chamberlain at age 28, another great move. Chamberlain, the NBA's leader in rebounding average who won three straight NBA MVPs after the trade.
Babe Ruth, traded by the Red Sox to the Yankees at age 24. Great move. Interesting side note on Ruth: he won almost as many World Series championships in his 15 years as a Yankee (4) as he did in his six years on the Red Sox (3). We think of the Ruth/Yankee years as a time when the Yankees dominated, but they actually started winning a lot of WS after Ruth left, starting with four in a row (and six of eight) from 1936 on and 16 of the 27 WS between 1936 and 1962.
(02-11-2025, 10:20 AM)gocard14 Wrote: Say what you want about his conditioning, he can roll out of bed in the morning and drop 30 points on efficient shooting numbers. The ability to reliably generate efficient half court offense is the most valuable skill in the NBA, as demonstrated by the Warriors clear lack of said ability prior to getting Jimmy Butler. Jokic looks doughy too. He's still the best player in the NBA.
In the six games since Butler's arrival, the Warriors have won five of six and have gone from:
- 18th to sixth in offensive rating (among 30 NBA teams)
- 10th to 5th in defensive rating
- 9th to 3rd in assists per game
- 8th to 3rd in assist/turnover ratio
- 9th to 2nd in steals per game
- 12th to 5th in fewest turnovers per game
- 7th to 2nd in second chance points per game (measure of offensive rebounding)
- 30th to 2nd in free throw percentage per game (no misprint, from 71% to 85.5%, 124 of 145)
Rebounding has dropped off. They were 3rd in the NBA and have been 12th over the last six games. Three point efficiency has also dropped off, from 13th to 20th.
They are now 9th in the West, 1/2 game back of both Minnesota and Dallas, and a game and a half behind the Clippers for 6th place and getting out of the play-in tournament. And they have the second easiest schedule in the NBA for the games remaining. Pretty good odds.
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(02-11-2025, 10:20 AM)gocard14 Wrote: The very concept of the trade is ridiculous. You just don't trade away a top 3 NBA player who is 25 years old. You just don't.
You can say that again. The Warriors traded Robert Parish when he was 26. All he did was help the Celtics to multiple NBA championships...and incidentally, Parish is the NBA's career leader in games played. They also traded Chamberlain at age 28, another great move. Chamberlain, the NBA's leader in rebounding average who won three straight NBA MVPs after the trade.
Babe Ruth, traded by the Red Sox to the Yankees at age 24. Great move. Interesting side note on Ruth: he won almost as many World Series championships in his 15 years as a Yankee (4) as he did in his six years on the Red Sox (3). We think of the Ruth/Yankee years as a time when the Yankees dominated, but they actually started winning a lot of WS after Ruth left, starting with four in a row (and six of eight) from 1936 on and 16 of the 27 WS between 1936 and 1962.
(02-11-2025, 10:20 AM)gocard14 Wrote: Say what you want about his conditioning, he can roll out of bed in the morning and drop 30 points on efficient shooting numbers. The ability to reliably generate efficient half court offense is the most valuable skill in the NBA, as demonstrated by the Warriors clear lack of said ability prior to getting Jimmy Butler. Jokic looks doughy too. He's still the best player in the NBA.
In the six games since Butler's arrival, the Warriors have won five of six and have gone from:
- 18th to sixth in offensive rating (among 30 NBA teams)
- 10th to 5th in defensive rating
- 9th to 3rd in assists per game
- 8th to 3rd in assist/turnover ratio
- 9th to 2nd in steals per game
- 12th to 5th in fewest turnovers per game
- 7th to 2nd in second chance points per game (measure of offensive rebounding)
- 30th to 2nd in free throw percentage per game (no misprint, from 71% to 85.5%, 124 of 145)
Rebounding has dropped off. They were 3rd in the NBA and have been 12th over the last six games. Three point efficiency has also dropped off, from 13th to 20th.
They are now 9th in the West, 1/2 game back of both Minnesota and Dallas, and a game and a half behind the Clippers for 6th place and getting out of the play-in tournament. And they have the second easiest schedule in the NBA for the games remaining. Pretty good odds.
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02-24-2025, 02:11 PM
After a rusty first game back from almost a week's time off to recover, Luka put down a nice stat line vs. the Nuggets over the weekend.
Seems he and Lebron are learning to play with each other, and I love it for the game that two very unique talents are making it happen.
| MIN | FG | FG% | 3P | 3P% | FT | FT% | REB | AST | BLK | STL | PF | TO | PTS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 31 | 10-22 | 45.5 | 4-9 | 44.4 | 8-8 | 100 | 10 | 7 | 1 | 4 | 0 | 1 | 32 |
Seems he and Lebron are learning to play with each other, and I love it for the game that two very unique talents are making it happen.
After a rusty first game back from almost a week's time off to recover, Luka put down a nice stat line vs. the Nuggets over the weekend.
Seems he and Lebron are learning to play with each other, and I love it for the game that two very unique talents are making it happen.
| MIN | FG | FG% | 3P | 3P% | FT | FT% | REB | AST | BLK | STL | PF | TO | PTS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 31 | 10-22 | 45.5 | 4-9 | 44.4 | 8-8 | 100 | 10 | 7 | 1 | 4 | 0 | 1 | 32 |
Seems he and Lebron are learning to play with each other, and I love it for the game that two very unique talents are making it happen.
05-12-2025, 11:22 PM
In a weird twist of fate, the Lakers crashed out of the playoffs in the first round, and the Mavericks won the NBA lottery and the first pick in the draft, and with it the chance to draft Cooper Flagg.
The Mavs chances of winning the lottery were 1.8%. Ill let Marty insert the gif of Han Solo saying “Never tell me the odds.”
BC
The Mavs chances of winning the lottery were 1.8%. Ill let Marty insert the gif of Han Solo saying “Never tell me the odds.”
BC
In a weird twist of fate, the Lakers crashed out of the playoffs in the first round, and the Mavericks won the NBA lottery and the first pick in the draft, and with it the chance to draft Cooper Flagg.
The Mavs chances of winning the lottery were 1.8%. Ill let Marty insert the gif of Han Solo saying “Never tell me the odds.”
BC
The Mavs chances of winning the lottery were 1.8%. Ill let Marty insert the gif of Han Solo saying “Never tell me the odds.”
BC
05-13-2025, 01:04 AM
Conspiracy theorists will tell you that the NBA rigged the draft so that Mavs fans will think twice about abandoning their once-beloved franchise and now cling to hope that Cooper Flagg will lead them to glory. What the Mavs ownership and Nico Harrison have done has almost eviscerated the fanbase, but this might entice some of them to come back into the fold.
Conspiracy theorists will tell you that the NBA rigged the draft so that Mavs fans will think twice about abandoning their once-beloved franchise and now cling to hope that Cooper Flagg will lead them to glory. What the Mavs ownership and Nico Harrison have done has almost eviscerated the fanbase, but this might entice some of them to come back into the fold.
05-13-2025, 07:27 AM
(05-13-2025, 01:04 AM)fullmetal Wrote: Conspiracy theorists will tell you that the NBA rigged the draft so that Mavs fans will think twice about abandoning their once-beloved franchise and now cling to hope that Cooper Flagg will lead them to glory. What the Mavs ownership and Nico Harrison have done has almost eviscerated the fanbase, but this might entice some of them to come back into the fold.
Sorry, I had forgotten to link the article, but the conspiracy is that the NBA enticed the Mavs to part with their star to the Lakers in exchange for winning the draft. Mavs fans were secondary to all this.
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(05-13-2025, 01:04 AM)fullmetal Wrote: Conspiracy theorists will tell you that the NBA rigged the draft so that Mavs fans will think twice about abandoning their once-beloved franchise and now cling to hope that Cooper Flagg will lead them to glory. What the Mavs ownership and Nico Harrison have done has almost eviscerated the fanbase, but this might entice some of them to come back into the fold.
Sorry, I had forgotten to link the article, but the conspiracy is that the NBA enticed the Mavs to part with their star to the Lakers in exchange for winning the draft. Mavs fans were secondary to all this.
BC
05-13-2025, 07:44 AM
(05-13-2025, 01:04 AM)fullmetal Wrote: Conspiracy theorists will tell you that the NBA rigged the draft so that Mavs fans will think twice about abandoning their once-beloved franchise and now cling to hope that Cooper Flagg will lead them to glory. What the Mavs ownership and Nico Harrison have done has almost eviscerated the fanbase, but this might entice some of them to come back into the fold.Not to worry . The Mavs will trade Flagg for some over the hill talent as soon as Flagg becomes a star.
(05-13-2025, 01:04 AM)fullmetal Wrote: Conspiracy theorists will tell you that the NBA rigged the draft so that Mavs fans will think twice about abandoning their once-beloved franchise and now cling to hope that Cooper Flagg will lead them to glory. What the Mavs ownership and Nico Harrison have done has almost eviscerated the fanbase, but this might entice some of them to come back into the fold.Not to worry . The Mavs will trade Flagg for some over the hill talent as soon as Flagg becomes a star.
(05-13-2025, 07:44 AM)Mudhead Wrote:I think they skip that step and use the #1 pick to draft somebody that has no talent. Flagg becoming a star will delay the move to Las Vegas longer than ownership will tolerate :-).(05-13-2025, 01:04 AM)fullmetal Wrote: Conspiracy theorists will tell you that the NBA rigged the draft so that Mavs fans will think twice about abandoning their once-beloved franchise and now cling to hope that Cooper Flagg will lead them to glory. What the Mavs ownership and Nico Harrison have done has almost eviscerated the fanbase, but this might entice some of them to come back into the fold.Not to worry . The Mavs will trade Flagg for some over the hill talent as soon as Flagg becomes a star.
(05-13-2025, 07:44 AM)Mudhead Wrote:I think they skip that step and use the #1 pick to draft somebody that has no talent. Flagg becoming a star will delay the move to Las Vegas longer than ownership will tolerate :-).(05-13-2025, 01:04 AM)fullmetal Wrote: Conspiracy theorists will tell you that the NBA rigged the draft so that Mavs fans will think twice about abandoning their once-beloved franchise and now cling to hope that Cooper Flagg will lead them to glory. What the Mavs ownership and Nico Harrison have done has almost eviscerated the fanbase, but this might entice some of them to come back into the fold.Not to worry . The Mavs will trade Flagg for some over the hill talent as soon as Flagg becomes a star.
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