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[quote author=stupac2 link=topic=12033.msg117331#msg117331 date=1430164773]
... though I suppose you could make the case that intent doesn't really matter with hate speech.

hmmmmmm.

I'll go with: that's a brilliantly subtle exposure of the irony inherent in the definition.
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One would have to be exceedingly ignorant not to know the implications of such a signal.  Thus, even if the intent was not to be explicitly express hate towards Jews on campus, one can argue that the callous disregard for the implications of such a symbol is itself hate.  In other words, the people who did it must have known the reaction it was going to cause and did it anyways, which itself is an expression of antisemitism.

By the way, that doesn't change if it was a member of a Jewish group "falsely portraying an antisemitic element at Stanford." Indeed, you can argue it is even more despicable, for it would be impossible for such a person not to know the reaction it would cause.  For such a person to be so callous and show a wanton disregard for the feelings of fellow Jews makes it worse, in my opinion.

I'm sorry, there are some symbols that are so clearly a sign of hatred that their use, even if not intended to be an expression of hatred, are a sign thereof.

BC

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[quote author=stupac2 link=topic=12033.msg117331#msg117331 date=1430164773]
... though I suppose you could make the case that intent doesn't really matter with hate speech.

hmmmmmm.

I'll go with: that's a brilliantly subtle exposure of the irony inherent in the definition.
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One would have to be exceedingly ignorant not to know the implications of such a signal.  Thus, even if the intent was not to be explicitly express hate towards Jews on campus, one can argue that the callous disregard for the implications of such a symbol is itself hate.  In other words, the people who did it must have known the reaction it was going to cause and did it anyways, which itself is an expression of antisemitism.

By the way, that doesn't change if it was a member of a Jewish group "falsely portraying an antisemitic element at Stanford." Indeed, you can argue it is even more despicable, for it would be impossible for such a person not to know the reaction it would cause.  For such a person to be so callous and show a wanton disregard for the feelings of fellow Jews makes it worse, in my opinion.

I'm sorry, there are some symbols that are so clearly a sign of hatred that their use, even if not intended to be an expression of hatred, are a sign thereof.

BC