[yvonne]

Wow - what a mess and a very, very sad story for the family. 

Yvonne, I couldn't agree with you more.  Every time I go to that site it makes me sick.  Clearly having a losing program has made these people even worse.  CalVata (sp?) and wifeisaf*rd come off as very, very bitter, angry people.  They are what is worst in UCB fans.  I feel sorry for the guy's wife...talk about making a poor lifetime decision.  Yes, Stanford grads can make some big mistakes.  I saw some of this mentality with younger high school friends that went there after being denied by Old Union.    My kids picked up on the Low APR U chip on  the shoulder when they took college visits at UCB as Stanford was mentioned negatively multiple times.     

Most of us that grew up in NorCal, applied to both schools.  UCB is a great school (and a good bargain) and I would be happy if my children chose to go there.    The thin envelope can make haters out of people and that's sad.    These people deserve their crappy football team and a lifetime with no Rose Bowl.

It might be an age thing. A friend in the over 60 crowd is a UCB alumna, the daughter of a Stanford alumna, and the ex-wife of a Stanford alumnus. Recently she asked, "When was it that we had to hate Stanford?"

I think it was around the time of Mike Palowski, but maybe it goes as far back as when Joe Kapp coached there. I hear he cut off a reporter's red tie.

[yvonne]

Wow - what a mess and a very, very sad story for the family. 

Yvonne, I couldn't agree with you more.  Every time I go to that site it makes me sick.  Clearly having a losing program has made these people even worse.  CalVata (sp?) and wifeisaf*rd come off as very, very bitter, angry people.  They are what is worst in UCB fans.  I feel sorry for the guy's wife...talk about making a poor lifetime decision.  Yes, Stanford grads can make some big mistakes.  I saw some of this mentality with younger high school friends that went there after being denied by Old Union.    My kids picked up on the Low APR U chip on  the shoulder when they took college visits at UCB as Stanford was mentioned negatively multiple times.     

Most of us that grew up in NorCal, applied to both schools.  UCB is a great school (and a good bargain) and I would be happy if my children chose to go there.    The thin envelope can make haters out of people and that's sad.    These people deserve their crappy football team and a lifetime with no Rose Bowl.

It might be an age thing. A friend in the over 60 crowd is a UCB alumna, the daughter of a Stanford alumna, and the ex-wife of a Stanford alumnus. Recently she asked, "When was it that we had to hate Stanford?"

I think it was around the time of Mike Palowski, but maybe it goes as far back as when Joe Kapp coached there. I hear he cut off a reporter's red tie.