[Mick]

[quote author=Mick link=topic=16303.msg183186#msg183186 date=1482246909]
[quote author=SUBuddha link=topic=16303.msg183184#msg183184 date=1482246235]
Team means a lot to me. However, I just don't get this from the fans. If the players feel like he quit on them that is different.

We are fans, he owes us nothing. We have no claim on his life, judge him how you will, but I have increased respect for him after this. I respect honesty above all else, perhaps why I am a not the first person asked to give performance reviews to my staff. He was honest with his team and with his fans. That I respect.

I played lacrosse and rugby at LSJU. I was out of money for school entering senior year. I took 25 units fall and winter quarter just to get out without having to borrow more money. This means I could not play spring quarter. Granted I was not a star, and not even a starter in rugby.

So does that mean I quit on my teams by doing what was best for me, or does this only apply to our star athletes?

No disrespect, but no one paid to watch you play, and you didn't receive a scholarship.  So your quitting is completely understandable.  I quit too, under the exact same circumstances.
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Mick- That is exactly my point. It is OK for me to quit simply because no one paid to see me play. How does the fact that we pay to see him play change the situation. For that matter how is this different from the 1 and dones in Basketball?
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Buddha, yes, it is OK for you to quit simply because no one paid to see you pay.  You didn't play lacrosse or rugby for a living, no one paid to see you.  Everyone understands that the commitment is far more tenuous than someone who is preparing for a career and .  Honestly, I don't really understand the phrase "How does the fact that we pay to see him play change the situation."  Because he is paid to play, because without football he's not at Stanford, because he'll play after he leaves, because mass investments have been made into his coaching, his equipment, etc. 

BTW, you're right, there's no real difference from CMAC's situation and the 1 and dones.  Those suck.

[Mick]

[quote author=Mick link=topic=16303.msg183186#msg183186 date=1482246909]
[quote author=SUBuddha link=topic=16303.msg183184#msg183184 date=1482246235]
Team means a lot to me. However, I just don't get this from the fans. If the players feel like he quit on them that is different.

We are fans, he owes us nothing. We have no claim on his life, judge him how you will, but I have increased respect for him after this. I respect honesty above all else, perhaps why I am a not the first person asked to give performance reviews to my staff. He was honest with his team and with his fans. That I respect.

I played lacrosse and rugby at LSJU. I was out of money for school entering senior year. I took 25 units fall and winter quarter just to get out without having to borrow more money. This means I could not play spring quarter. Granted I was not a star, and not even a starter in rugby.

So does that mean I quit on my teams by doing what was best for me, or does this only apply to our star athletes?

No disrespect, but no one paid to watch you play, and you didn't receive a scholarship.  So your quitting is completely understandable.  I quit too, under the exact same circumstances.
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Mick- That is exactly my point. It is OK for me to quit simply because no one paid to see me play. How does the fact that we pay to see him play change the situation. For that matter how is this different from the 1 and dones in Basketball?
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Buddha, yes, it is OK for you to quit simply because no one paid to see you pay.  You didn't play lacrosse or rugby for a living, no one paid to see you.  Everyone understands that the commitment is far more tenuous than someone who is preparing for a career and .  Honestly, I don't really understand the phrase "How does the fact that we pay to see him play change the situation."  Because he is paid to play, because without football he's not at Stanford, because he'll play after he leaves, because mass investments have been made into his coaching, his equipment, etc. 

BTW, you're right, there's no real difference from CMAC's situation and the 1 and dones.  Those suck.