[Mick]

[quote author=teejers1 link=topic=16303.msg183257#msg183257 date=1482275108]
Respectfully, fullmetal, I think you're way off base in believing that the team is fine with this decision.  They are good teammates so they are keeping their disgruntlement in-house, but really, it's hard to see how anyone who has played competitive team sports would not have a problem with this.  They might understand it - heck, I think most of us "get" the thinking behind Christian looking out for his own financial best interest - but like it or agree with it?  That is an entirely different matter.

Ok, so the team is mad because there's no evidence that they're mad...and of course if there were, then they'd be mad.  You're telling me that there is zero possibility that the team is largely supporting CMac...c'mon, really?  He's carried the team through much of the last two seasons--surely they're not going to shun him forever because of a Sun Bowl.  So in absence of mutinous evidence, maybe we should all just agree to leave the team's sentiments out of it. (Even though there are tweets from players saying that the whole team is supportive--guess you don't think we can believe those Pollyannas, huh? :))

Sun Bowl is NOT a fifth-tier bowl game, if the playoff and NY6 are tier one, that puts the Sun Bowl in the second, the third tier at the very lowest.  Fifth-tier bowl games are more like the one going on right now between WKU and Memphis

I meant literally a fifth-tier bowl: Rose, Alamo, Holiday, Foster, Sun.  If you include the CFP, Stanford was picked sixth, but I wasn't going to be that uncharitable.  Wasn't a knock on the quality of the teams playing.

Back to my original point--CMac played when the team stood to benefit from the win.  A Sun Bowl win doesn't advance them anywhere or improve their chances of getting a better postseason game.  I think he'd have been justified in skipping the Rose, though I would be tremendously disappointed at that business decision.  Again, he's committed to forgoing his senior season--no small sacrifice--and if he's going to do that, he may as well commit whole-hog to maximizing his draft potential.
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Good point.  It's not like there are Texas high school football players and coaches watching the Sun Bowl.  We certainly don't need to recruit in Texas, so there's that.

[Mick]

[quote author=teejers1 link=topic=16303.msg183257#msg183257 date=1482275108]
Respectfully, fullmetal, I think you're way off base in believing that the team is fine with this decision.  They are good teammates so they are keeping their disgruntlement in-house, but really, it's hard to see how anyone who has played competitive team sports would not have a problem with this.  They might understand it - heck, I think most of us "get" the thinking behind Christian looking out for his own financial best interest - but like it or agree with it?  That is an entirely different matter.

Ok, so the team is mad because there's no evidence that they're mad...and of course if there were, then they'd be mad.  You're telling me that there is zero possibility that the team is largely supporting CMac...c'mon, really?  He's carried the team through much of the last two seasons--surely they're not going to shun him forever because of a Sun Bowl.  So in absence of mutinous evidence, maybe we should all just agree to leave the team's sentiments out of it. (Even though there are tweets from players saying that the whole team is supportive--guess you don't think we can believe those Pollyannas, huh? :))

Sun Bowl is NOT a fifth-tier bowl game, if the playoff and NY6 are tier one, that puts the Sun Bowl in the second, the third tier at the very lowest.  Fifth-tier bowl games are more like the one going on right now between WKU and Memphis

I meant literally a fifth-tier bowl: Rose, Alamo, Holiday, Foster, Sun.  If you include the CFP, Stanford was picked sixth, but I wasn't going to be that uncharitable.  Wasn't a knock on the quality of the teams playing.

Back to my original point--CMac played when the team stood to benefit from the win.  A Sun Bowl win doesn't advance them anywhere or improve their chances of getting a better postseason game.  I think he'd have been justified in skipping the Rose, though I would be tremendously disappointed at that business decision.  Again, he's committed to forgoing his senior season--no small sacrifice--and if he's going to do that, he may as well commit whole-hog to maximizing his draft potential.
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Good point.  It's not like there are Texas high school football players and coaches watching the Sun Bowl.  We certainly don't need to recruit in Texas, so there's that.