[Mick]

[quote author=martyup link=topic=16303.msg183351#msg183351 date=1482368733]
[quote author=CornFed link=topic=16303.msg183333#msg183333 date=1482363909]
At some point further discussion amounts to simply honing one's debate skills.  It is, though, why I love reading the CardBoard.  You folks have some chops.  Great points have been made.

True.  Seventeen pages on this topic.  A very heated debate about a very significant decision by a very significant player in Stanford football history.  I'm glad this debate didn't devolve into ad hominem.
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This is a national story as it raises a lot of issues that impact all fan bases. Is this a new trend? Can you believe he did that?

I visit a Michigan message board and they had more comments on this topic than the Cardboard.  The majority of those comments are much less  understanding and forgiving of CMac's decision as the Stanford fan base. The consensus seems to be that CMac is very selfish in bailing on his team even if it makes economic sense for him. They feel that a true Michigan man wouldn't make that decision and they are worried that CMac's selfish attitude will run in the family and carry over to his brother who is headed to Michigan.  This decision of his is creating more publicity than his announcement to go pro or his    snub.  This is still discussed on Sportscenter and talk radio shows all over the country. This mixed publicity is not helpful to the young man as he seeks employment and future endorsements. As I stated earlier in this thread, I think he will look back one day and regret not playing in the Sun Bowl.  I understand why he did it and it makes economic sense, but not all decisions we make are driven by economics and it bums me out that CMac made this particular decision.
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Personally, I think this is going to become the new normal -- the football equivalent of the one-and-dones, as another poster put it.  I think that NFL draft/free agent candidates will bail on bowl games if the players perceive that the game won't help their draft status.  So they'll most likely play in Jan. 1 and later games, but not in bowls before Jan. 1. 

This will pose quite a dilemma for coaches.  They want and need the best players, but i'm certain that it drives them batsxxt crazy when they see CMAC or Fournette quit.  At the same time, they can't really come out and publicly say that, or it will harm their recruiting of all the 17 year old 3, 4 and 5 star players who think they'll be in the NFL one day.

[Mick]

[quote author=martyup link=topic=16303.msg183351#msg183351 date=1482368733]
[quote author=CornFed link=topic=16303.msg183333#msg183333 date=1482363909]
At some point further discussion amounts to simply honing one's debate skills.  It is, though, why I love reading the CardBoard.  You folks have some chops.  Great points have been made.

True.  Seventeen pages on this topic.  A very heated debate about a very significant decision by a very significant player in Stanford football history.  I'm glad this debate didn't devolve into ad hominem.
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This is a national story as it raises a lot of issues that impact all fan bases. Is this a new trend? Can you believe he did that?

I visit a Michigan message board and they had more comments on this topic than the Cardboard.  The majority of those comments are much less  understanding and forgiving of CMac's decision as the Stanford fan base. The consensus seems to be that CMac is very selfish in bailing on his team even if it makes economic sense for him. They feel that a true Michigan man wouldn't make that decision and they are worried that CMac's selfish attitude will run in the family and carry over to his brother who is headed to Michigan.  This decision of his is creating more publicity than his announcement to go pro or his    snub.  This is still discussed on Sportscenter and talk radio shows all over the country. This mixed publicity is not helpful to the young man as he seeks employment and future endorsements. As I stated earlier in this thread, I think he will look back one day and regret not playing in the Sun Bowl.  I understand why he did it and it makes economic sense, but not all decisions we make are driven by economics and it bums me out that CMac made this particular decision.
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Personally, I think this is going to become the new normal -- the football equivalent of the one-and-dones, as another poster put it.  I think that NFL draft/free agent candidates will bail on bowl games if the players perceive that the game won't help their draft status.  So they'll most likely play in Jan. 1 and later games, but not in bowls before Jan. 1. 

This will pose quite a dilemma for coaches.  They want and need the best players, but i'm certain that it drives them batsxxt crazy when they see CMAC or Fournette quit.  At the same time, they can't really come out and publicly say that, or it will harm their recruiting of all the 17 year old 3, 4 and 5 star players who think they'll be in the NFL one day.