[TreesAndBirds]

Not doing a post-game handshake is weak.  But how about refraining from branding the kid as "a punk" for this action after (another) disappointing loss.

And really folks, how would you feel if you were All World in a given sport (top-rated recruit in the nation at your position); excelled in high school (4.0+ average); had a sibling at Stanford; made it known that Stanford was where you wanted to go; and then have the coach of your sport say 'we don't want you, you're too arrogant!"  [And Shaw has made it public, per a recent interview of Dave Flemming on KNBR].

http://www.knbr.com/murph-mac-podcast-pr...-commerce/

(see 9/21 interview, near end at 13:30 mark)

Are you freaking kidding me?  Who is the adult and who is the petulant child?  I'd be pissed if I were Rosen (or a family member of his).

Coach Shaw has every right to extend offers to whomever he believes will help the team, and refrain from extending offers for same reasons.  But why trash a kid you don't offer?

P.S.  Some folks think if Jameis Winston (who Shaw offered and was admitted) came to Stanford he wouldn't have had the behavioral issues he did at FSU, given the environment on The Farm.  Does the same not hold for Rosen (whose conduct, btw, is nowhere near as low as that of Winston).

+1

I also was surprised that Shaw implicitly criticized Rosen's comments on sports and academics ( I think it was in an article in the Merc but not sure). Stanford is of course special and Shaw does a great job in this regard, but as a general matter Rosen at a minimum brought up an important issue, and one that is probably more important to his teammates with less likelihood of making it to the NFL than it is to him.

It is an odd couple, but I see some similarities between Rosen and Sherman. Talented, intelligent, thoughtful, outspoken, but sometimes I wish they both had more of a filter. I think Rosen rubs more people wrong because he had many more advantages in life.

[TreesAndBirds]

Not doing a post-game handshake is weak.  But how about refraining from branding the kid as "a punk" for this action after (another) disappointing loss.

And really folks, how would you feel if you were All World in a given sport (top-rated recruit in the nation at your position); excelled in high school (4.0+ average); had a sibling at Stanford; made it known that Stanford was where you wanted to go; and then have the coach of your sport say 'we don't want you, you're too arrogant!"  [And Shaw has made it public, per a recent interview of Dave Flemming on KNBR].

http://www.knbr.com/murph-mac-podcast-pr...-commerce/

(see 9/21 interview, near end at 13:30 mark)

Are you freaking kidding me?  Who is the adult and who is the petulant child?  I'd be pissed if I were Rosen (or a family member of his).

Coach Shaw has every right to extend offers to whomever he believes will help the team, and refrain from extending offers for same reasons.  But why trash a kid you don't offer?

P.S.  Some folks think if Jameis Winston (who Shaw offered and was admitted) came to Stanford he wouldn't have had the behavioral issues he did at FSU, given the environment on The Farm.  Does the same not hold for Rosen (whose conduct, btw, is nowhere near as low as that of Winston).

+1

I also was surprised that Shaw implicitly criticized Rosen's comments on sports and academics ( I think it was in an article in the Merc but not sure). Stanford is of course special and Shaw does a great job in this regard, but as a general matter Rosen at a minimum brought up an important issue, and one that is probably more important to his teammates with less likelihood of making it to the NFL than it is to him.

It is an odd couple, but I see some similarities between Rosen and Sherman. Talented, intelligent, thoughtful, outspoken, but sometimes I wish they both had more of a filter. I think Rosen rubs more people wrong because he had many more advantages in life.