[D. C. Bear]

[quote author=D. C. Bear link=topic=5093.msg37149#msg37149 date=1323409752]You talk about Luck not needing to air it out later in games. Was this just your perception from watching the games, or did you look at some numbers? The stats indicate that Luck did not "shut it down" in the second half of games. He had more second-half yardage than first-half yardage on fewer completions. I think this is an argument in his favor--he got better as the game went on--but it certainly tends to contradict the idea that Luck didn't "air it out" in the second half of games.

Your analysis resembles of a fantasy football stats overview.  The rest of us actually watched the games.  Luck didn't air it out in the way OSU or Baylor did--he didn't have the receiving corps to do that anyway.  Watch a few Stanford games.
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I'm not saying that he "aired it out" like OSU or Baylor do. I'm saying that he had more yards in the second half of games than in the first half of games. It's a comparison of Luck first half to Luck second half, and I think it speaks well of him. It does not indicate that he would have had more yards if he had not backed off in the second half of games. Watching the games without also examining the statistics can lead to false impressions.

As for my comment about Griffin wearing dreads and being faster, he does and he is. I get tired of people implying that he lacks the intelligence to be a great quarterback because he used to run track. He wasn't nearly the quarterback he is today when he was faster, before the ACL surgery. I don't think it is a race issue with posters here, I think it is an issue of denigrating one player's decision-making skills to make the impressive decision-making skills of another look even more impressive. With Griffin, you don't have to choose between being a smart football player and being an accurate passer or being a threat to take it to the house should he decide to tuck it and run. Comments like "if I ever had to decide between losing my arms or my brain -- it's a no-brainer to give up the brain." are, I think tinged with red-colored glasses that don't want to admit that RGIII and Luck are both great players, are both highly intelligent in the classroom and on the football field, but that Davey O'Brien Award-winner RGIII happened to have a better year in 2011 than Maxwell Award-winner Andrew Luck.

[D. C. Bear]

[quote author=D. C. Bear link=topic=5093.msg37149#msg37149 date=1323409752]You talk about Luck not needing to air it out later in games. Was this just your perception from watching the games, or did you look at some numbers? The stats indicate that Luck did not "shut it down" in the second half of games. He had more second-half yardage than first-half yardage on fewer completions. I think this is an argument in his favor--he got better as the game went on--but it certainly tends to contradict the idea that Luck didn't "air it out" in the second half of games.

Your analysis resembles of a fantasy football stats overview.  The rest of us actually watched the games.  Luck didn't air it out in the way OSU or Baylor did--he didn't have the receiving corps to do that anyway.  Watch a few Stanford games.
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I'm not saying that he "aired it out" like OSU or Baylor do. I'm saying that he had more yards in the second half of games than in the first half of games. It's a comparison of Luck first half to Luck second half, and I think it speaks well of him. It does not indicate that he would have had more yards if he had not backed off in the second half of games. Watching the games without also examining the statistics can lead to false impressions.

As for my comment about Griffin wearing dreads and being faster, he does and he is. I get tired of people implying that he lacks the intelligence to be a great quarterback because he used to run track. He wasn't nearly the quarterback he is today when he was faster, before the ACL surgery. I don't think it is a race issue with posters here, I think it is an issue of denigrating one player's decision-making skills to make the impressive decision-making skills of another look even more impressive. With Griffin, you don't have to choose between being a smart football player and being an accurate passer or being a threat to take it to the house should he decide to tuck it and run. Comments like "if I ever had to decide between losing my arms or my brain -- it's a no-brainer to give up the brain." are, I think tinged with red-colored glasses that don't want to admit that RGIII and Luck are both great players, are both highly intelligent in the classroom and on the football field, but that Davey O'Brien Award-winner RGIII happened to have a better year in 2011 than Maxwell Award-winner Andrew Luck.