[lex24]

Even as an unabashed Shaw supporter I have to admit the points number is skewed on part by rule and style changes. There are more points now. What I’d be curious to see Mick is where Stanford’s defenses these last 7 years fall historically. Keeping the same thought in mind re the changed game.

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Last point.  The 2001 (35.2) and 1999 (34.8 ppg) offenses would rank 3rd and 4th had they been David Shaw's seasons, behind 2015 (37.7 ppg) and 2010 (40.3 ppg); and those were Willingham's two best seasons.

Some other points:
1)  Most points given up in a season, 1993's team coached by Bill Walsh gave up 389 points.  His 1994 team gave up 359 points, fifth most in Stanford history.
2)  Amazing to me that the 1999 team got into the Rose Bowl having given up the 4th most points in Stanford's history.
3)  Willingham had a strong defense in 1996, only giving up 229 points.  The rest of his defenses were among the worst in Stanford's history, including #4 (1998, 365 pts), #5 (1999, 364), #8 (2001, 339), #13 (1997, 317), #16 (1995, 307), #18 (2000, 294).  Of the 121 seasons, TW had six of the worst defenses.  But he beat Ca.l every year, so...
4)  Shaw has all five of the top five most points in a season, three as HC (11, 13, 15), two as OC. (09, 10).
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[lex24]

Even as an unabashed Shaw supporter I have to admit the points number is skewed on part by rule and style changes. There are more points now. What I’d be curious to see Mick is where Stanford’s defenses these last 7 years fall historically. Keeping the same thought in mind re the changed game.

[quote author=Boston Card link=topic=18293.msg217615#msg217615 date=1512804208]
Last point.  The 2001 (35.2) and 1999 (34.8 ppg) offenses would rank 3rd and 4th had they been David Shaw's seasons, behind 2015 (37.7 ppg) and 2010 (40.3 ppg); and those were Willingham's two best seasons.

Some other points:
1)  Most points given up in a season, 1993's team coached by Bill Walsh gave up 389 points.  His 1994 team gave up 359 points, fifth most in Stanford history.
2)  Amazing to me that the 1999 team got into the Rose Bowl having given up the 4th most points in Stanford's history.
3)  Willingham had a strong defense in 1996, only giving up 229 points.  The rest of his defenses were among the worst in Stanford's history, including #4 (1998, 365 pts), #5 (1999, 364), #8 (2001, 339), #13 (1997, 317), #16 (1995, 307), #18 (2000, 294).  Of the 121 seasons, TW had six of the worst defenses.  But he beat Ca.l every year, so...
4)  Shaw has all five of the top five most points in a season, three as HC (11, 13, 15), two as OC. (09, 10).
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