[Phogge]

[quote author=Phogge link=topic=18458.msg219826#msg219826 date=1514653968]
Fitz reports and quotes a much more optimistic Shaw than we pencilnecks are. The article implies at least a ten win season. Right.

of course when you play fourteen games a ten win season is not the same benchmark as when you played at most twelve games (or in the youth of the Phogge when nine or ten wins was an undefeated season  ;) )
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Big 10 was limited to nine games and there was a no repeat rule in the Rose Bowl which penalized one of the two or three best teams of all time, 1954 UCLA.

[Phogge]

[quote author=Phogge link=topic=18458.msg219826#msg219826 date=1514653968]
Fitz reports and quotes a much more optimistic Shaw than we pencilnecks are. The article implies at least a ten win season. Right.

of course when you play fourteen games a ten win season is not the same benchmark as when you played at most twelve games (or in the youth of the Phogge when nine or ten wins was an undefeated season  ;) )
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Big 10 was limited to nine games and there was a no repeat rule in the Rose Bowl which penalized one of the two or three best teams of all time, 1954 UCLA.