[d4cohn]

No, seriously, can we give credit to the Stanford coaching staff for preparing their team to pull off this upset?  Clearly our game plans on both O and D were excellent.  We can always nit pick a few play calls, but we really shut down UW.  How about that 4th down call at mid-field?  Awesome game.

All credit in the world for preparing the team to finally play a complete game. But it was in ***WEEK SIX*** not week 2 or 3.

At this point, they need to play like that 2 or 3 games in a row for me to believe in any kind of upward trend.

I would also argue that at this point, Shaw would need to have 2 or 3 bad seasons in a row for me to believe in any kind of downward trend too.  And to be honest, while we have likely retreated from the heights we experienced between 2010 and 2015 (Orange, Fiesta, and three Rose Bowls), what we have experienced since then (three bowl games, and one Pac-12 North championship) could hardly be considered "bad seasons".

BC

Completely agree BC. To put a metric on your "bad season" definition, for me it would have to be 2-3 bowl-less losing seasons. 7-5 is maybe a mediocre season by definition, but not a bad season.

So since the last Rose Bowl, in my estimation we have had 1 great year (10 wins with Sun Bowl victory), 1 good to great year (division title + Alamo Bowl loss), and 1 good year (9 wins + Sun Bowl win).

[d4cohn]

No, seriously, can we give credit to the Stanford coaching staff for preparing their team to pull off this upset?  Clearly our game plans on both O and D were excellent.  We can always nit pick a few play calls, but we really shut down UW.  How about that 4th down call at mid-field?  Awesome game.

All credit in the world for preparing the team to finally play a complete game. But it was in ***WEEK SIX*** not week 2 or 3.

At this point, they need to play like that 2 or 3 games in a row for me to believe in any kind of upward trend.

I would also argue that at this point, Shaw would need to have 2 or 3 bad seasons in a row for me to believe in any kind of downward trend too.  And to be honest, while we have likely retreated from the heights we experienced between 2010 and 2015 (Orange, Fiesta, and three Rose Bowls), what we have experienced since then (three bowl games, and one Pac-12 North championship) could hardly be considered "bad seasons".

BC

Completely agree BC. To put a metric on your "bad season" definition, for me it would have to be 2-3 bowl-less losing seasons. 7-5 is maybe a mediocre season by definition, but not a bad season.

So since the last Rose Bowl, in my estimation we have had 1 great year (10 wins with Sun Bowl victory), 1 good to great year (division title + Alamo Bowl loss), and 1 good year (9 wins + Sun Bowl win).