[yvonne]

It goes back further than that. Here's a 2004 article:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=24...44,1908681

(It's very difficult to navigate to the jump, but  it's worth the effort. The second part has good quotes.)

[yvonne]

It goes back further than that. Here's a 2004 article:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=24...44,1908681

(It's very difficult to navigate to the jump, but  it's worth the effort. The second part has good quotes.)