[Papa John]

We'll have to agree to disagree, teejers1. I think that academics/40-year decision should always be *the* main criterion presented to Stanford's recruits. Stanford has never been in the CFP, so I'm not sure how that could be considered a factor. We almost won the Pac-12 championship game in 2017, lost close games to UW and WSU and finished a game back in the north in 2018, and had a disastrous 2019/beginning of 2020. As far as NY6 bowls, I continue to believe that Shaw has the creds to convince recruits that he will turn the ship around. He deserves the opportunity to try, so I'm not willing to admit at this point that Stanford's football future has been squandered.

[Papa John]

We'll have to agree to disagree, teejers1. I think that academics/40-year decision should always be *the* main criterion presented to Stanford's recruits. Stanford has never been in the CFP, so I'm not sure how that could be considered a factor. We almost won the Pac-12 championship game in 2017, lost close games to UW and WSU and finished a game back in the north in 2018, and had a disastrous 2019/beginning of 2020. As far as NY6 bowls, I continue to believe that Shaw has the creds to convince recruits that he will turn the ship around. He deserves the opportunity to try, so I'm not willing to admit at this point that Stanford's football future has been squandered.