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Logical to me that some Oregon fans didn't like him as that's just what some fans like to do.

Ultimately Cristobal doesn't need to be a great gameday coach now, he just needs to recruit great talent.  Cristobal is from South Florida and attended the U.  If he can just keep the South Florida talent from jumping to Georgia, Alabama and/or LSU he will be fine.   The ACC is weak, so if he can pull back even a few of the South Florida kids they will win a bunch.

Despite his limited coaching success with a meaningful talent advantage in the Pac-12, Cristobal is now making $8 million per year while his new employer is also paying that $9 million buyout for the Oregon contract.   So that's now may be the floor on compensation for one time Power5 conference winners.  Just FYI for those trying to understand how much the agent of a particular Power5 coach with a few conference titles might be able to get from a school.

Your last sentence would have some credence if there was any market at all for said coach "with a few conference titles."  There was and is none.  Also, you're attempting to transpose the craziness we're seeing today with the conditions in 2015/early 2016 when lifetime extension and raise granted.  Lastly, you assume said coach wanted to leave the cushiest gig in college football.  Again, no evidence of that.  So Bernie's Blunder remains indefensible.

For those that were calling out that $9 million was/is outrageous need to understand that if Stanford were to hire someone with Shaw's credentials, but not named Shaw, Stanford would need to pay a coach like that $9+ million right now.  That coach likely would have an existing contract with a buyout clause, so Stanford would need to pony up $5-10 million AND keep paying Shaw something for the duration of his contract too.

Stanford is not going to be able to hire away a head coach on a current 2022 NY6, but it is worth noting Cristobal was not on a current 2022 NY6 team.   Remember, Shaw has to deal with Stanford's very restrictive admissions policies.  Who really knows what he could do at other places?   We know what Cristobal did at Oregon.  He took a school with nearly unlimited resources and a series of top rated recruiting classes to one conference title in five years.   That level of accomplishment is worth $8 million per year which is a discount to the Riley/Kelly level of compensation.

Some think Shaw is not going to be the right fit for Stanford going forward, and that's fine.   However, for those that think Stanford can replace Shaw, then get AND keep a CFP/NY6 level coach by paying $4 million or $5 million per year, well those days are long, long gone.

Nice qualifier on "then . . . keep."  You can get some up-and comer at $2M/year level.  If they prove their worth, then yes, the price goes up.  But at least that guy will have built something and presumably earned the salary bounce.

And btw, there is a real institutional issue regarding whether Stanford should pay its head football coach $9M/year.  I'll bet a majority of Stanford alums (and faculty) believe the answer is no.  There is no doubt in my mind that college football - like all (or most) walks of society - is stratifying into "the haves" and "the have nots."  Stanford, if it intends to stay in college football, will likely fall to the "have nots" side of the ledger - we're already there in terms of on-field performance - and just have to play within those restrictions for as long as Stanford University thinks it makes sense to do so.   

It may be a grim reality to some, but that's the world we're in now.

[teejers1]

Logical to me that some Oregon fans didn't like him as that's just what some fans like to do.

Ultimately Cristobal doesn't need to be a great gameday coach now, he just needs to recruit great talent.  Cristobal is from South Florida and attended the U.  If he can just keep the South Florida talent from jumping to Georgia, Alabama and/or LSU he will be fine.   The ACC is weak, so if he can pull back even a few of the South Florida kids they will win a bunch.

Despite his limited coaching success with a meaningful talent advantage in the Pac-12, Cristobal is now making $8 million per year while his new employer is also paying that $9 million buyout for the Oregon contract.   So that's now may be the floor on compensation for one time Power5 conference winners.  Just FYI for those trying to understand how much the agent of a particular Power5 coach with a few conference titles might be able to get from a school.

Your last sentence would have some credence if there was any market at all for said coach "with a few conference titles."  There was and is none.  Also, you're attempting to transpose the craziness we're seeing today with the conditions in 2015/early 2016 when lifetime extension and raise granted.  Lastly, you assume said coach wanted to leave the cushiest gig in college football.  Again, no evidence of that.  So Bernie's Blunder remains indefensible.

For those that were calling out that $9 million was/is outrageous need to understand that if Stanford were to hire someone with Shaw's credentials, but not named Shaw, Stanford would need to pay a coach like that $9+ million right now.  That coach likely would have an existing contract with a buyout clause, so Stanford would need to pony up $5-10 million AND keep paying Shaw something for the duration of his contract too.

Stanford is not going to be able to hire away a head coach on a current 2022 NY6, but it is worth noting Cristobal was not on a current 2022 NY6 team.   Remember, Shaw has to deal with Stanford's very restrictive admissions policies.  Who really knows what he could do at other places?   We know what Cristobal did at Oregon.  He took a school with nearly unlimited resources and a series of top rated recruiting classes to one conference title in five years.   That level of accomplishment is worth $8 million per year which is a discount to the Riley/Kelly level of compensation.

Some think Shaw is not going to be the right fit for Stanford going forward, and that's fine.   However, for those that think Stanford can replace Shaw, then get AND keep a CFP/NY6 level coach by paying $4 million or $5 million per year, well those days are long, long gone.

Nice qualifier on "then . . . keep."  You can get some up-and comer at $2M/year level.  If they prove their worth, then yes, the price goes up.  But at least that guy will have built something and presumably earned the salary bounce.

And btw, there is a real institutional issue regarding whether Stanford should pay its head football coach $9M/year.  I'll bet a majority of Stanford alums (and faculty) believe the answer is no.  There is no doubt in my mind that college football - like all (or most) walks of society - is stratifying into "the haves" and "the have nots."  Stanford, if it intends to stay in college football, will likely fall to the "have nots" side of the ledger - we're already there in terms of on-field performance - and just have to play within those restrictions for as long as Stanford University thinks it makes sense to do so.   

It may be a grim reality to some, but that's the world we're in now.