[AlbanyCardinal]

I had season tickets through that stretch, and I'm not so sure. I'd agree that it was worse in many respects but not all. I felt hope then, at least, that changes would be made soon, b/c the product on the field was worsening so. I don't feel that hope at all in the present. Stanford seems stuck with Shaw and his personnel for a long time. I get that he's Stanford's winningest football coach and put together a nice run. But if your program is tanking as his has been, you need to fire and hire to stay in the game. There's a stagnancy today that rivals some of the worst aspects of that lean stretch you mentioned, imo.

the program is as irrelevant at this point as any time in my life. 

Were you alive in 2002-2006 for IdiotFace & HeWhoMustNotBeNamed? I can assure you things were MUCH bleaker in that era than they are now

[AlbanyCardinal]

I had season tickets through that stretch, and I'm not so sure. I'd agree that it was worse in many respects but not all. I felt hope then, at least, that changes would be made soon, b/c the product on the field was worsening so. I don't feel that hope at all in the present. Stanford seems stuck with Shaw and his personnel for a long time. I get that he's Stanford's winningest football coach and put together a nice run. But if your program is tanking as his has been, you need to fire and hire to stay in the game. There's a stagnancy today that rivals some of the worst aspects of that lean stretch you mentioned, imo.

the program is as irrelevant at this point as any time in my life. 

Were you alive in 2002-2006 for IdiotFace & HeWhoMustNotBeNamed? I can assure you things were MUCH bleaker in that era than they are now