[Spiny_Norman]

What counts is we can go to the Rose Bowl . . . .

Let's just beat UCLA twice -- which will be tough but look at how we played Saturday -- and take the real prize, which is being the Pac-8* team in the Rose Bowl.  Of course I'd like to see us in the Rose Bowl AND national champions, but the Rose Bowl is a much bigger deal.

Could not agree more.  You play the game to win championships.  As Coach Shaw said after the game, no one is giving Stanford a trophy for beating Oregon.  Still more work to do.

Look at it this way, Stanford has won 1 outright conference championship (and two shared in 1992 and 2001) in the last 40 years!  This team has a chance to make history.  I'm pretty darn excited at the prospect of playing for a championship and a Rose Bowl berth.  Who cares what the nattering nabobs have to say about our prospects.

[Spiny_Norman]

What counts is we can go to the Rose Bowl . . . .

Let's just beat UCLA twice -- which will be tough but look at how we played Saturday -- and take the real prize, which is being the Pac-8* team in the Rose Bowl.  Of course I'd like to see us in the Rose Bowl AND national champions, but the Rose Bowl is a much bigger deal.

Could not agree more.  You play the game to win championships.  As Coach Shaw said after the game, no one is giving Stanford a trophy for beating Oregon.  Still more work to do.

Look at it this way, Stanford has won 1 outright conference championship (and two shared in 1992 and 2001) in the last 40 years!  This team has a chance to make history.  I'm pretty darn excited at the prospect of playing for a championship and a Rose Bowl berth.  Who cares what the nattering nabobs have to say about our prospects.