[d4cohn]

Based on what I saw tonight, we'll be lucky to win 4 games this year. 

We are playing in the ACC this year, not last year's loaded Pac-12. We have Cal Poly, San Jose State, Syracuse, and Wake Forest on the schedule, to say nothing of Cal and SMU. Sure, you have to win the first one, but I think it would be inexcusable for this team to not make a bowl (on the schedule rather than our play tonight).

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I haven't seen that bad of decision making in a long time. Well since Shaw. Inexcusable. Bad play calling, bad decisions. The defense exceeded expectations. The O and the O coaching were awful.

I don't remember many if any games David Shaw gave up a 3+ point lead with under 7 minutes to go in the game (I am sure he did, but it didn't also happen *frequently*). His problem the final three years was not playing well enough in the first 3 quarters, not the fourth. The 'turtle' pejorative existed for a reason, because while not pretty, it won us games.

[d4cohn]

Based on what I saw tonight, we'll be lucky to win 4 games this year. 

We are playing in the ACC this year, not last year's loaded Pac-12. We have Cal Poly, San Jose State, Syracuse, and Wake Forest on the schedule, to say nothing of Cal and SMU. Sure, you have to win the first one, but I think it would be inexcusable for this team to not make a bowl (on the schedule rather than our play tonight).

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I haven't seen that bad of decision making in a long time. Well since Shaw. Inexcusable. Bad play calling, bad decisions. The defense exceeded expectations. The O and the O coaching were awful.

I don't remember many if any games David Shaw gave up a 3+ point lead with under 7 minutes to go in the game (I am sure he did, but it didn't also happen *frequently*). His problem the final three years was not playing well enough in the first 3 quarters, not the fourth. The 'turtle' pejorative existed for a reason, because while not pretty, it won us games.