(12-04-2024, 06:34 PM)Goose Wrote:(12-04-2024, 05:54 PM)BostonCard Wrote:No, nobody is pretending it is anything other than free agency. The "working with" statement could mean many things. It could mean that some of these transfers are undecided. It could also mean they are not yet "admitted". Some of them could also be grad transfers. A bit of uncertainty remains. If Stanford admits 11 undergraduate transfers for football alone I will be very surprised. The number of transfers this year may be more than 25. It could be double that. Still, athletes being 22% of the transfer class would be "high". Not crazy high, but atypical. One also has to consider transfers in other sports.(12-04-2024, 02:04 PM)chrisk Wrote: Taylor said they are working with 11 transfers to recruit and get them admitted mid-year.
I hate that this is just a part of doing business in college football today. I support players' right to transfer, just as I do any student. But there is a real problem when Stanford might take 25 transfers through regular pathways, and half that number just for football. like, are we pretending that this is anything other than "free agency" any more?
BC
A couple of points that Taylor made about transfers:
Stanford has had to speed up its process so it can turn around the recruiting of transfers in less than 48 hours (he didn't specify where admissions fit into the process)
Stanford has data on many potential transfers from when they were in the high school recruiting pool. That can help in determining who to pursue and the chances of success.
He said that currently graduates are in the transfer portal, with undergrads being able to enter next week.
(12-04-2024, 08:04 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(12-04-2024, 07:43 PM)82lsju Wrote: for 2023-24 Stanford admitted 67 transfers and enrolled 58, which is an increase from the recent past when the number was as you recalled ~25 (and in some year 10-15)
https://ucomm.stanford.edu/wp-content/up...nal_v2.pdf
back in the day (when I transferred in) my class (class of '82, I transferred in fall of 1979) ended up with ~200 transfers in total so a little over 10% of total '82 undergraduates (~1800), most appeared to arrive between winter quarter of their frosh year (so yes one quarter elsewhere (so I'm guessing a "late" acceptance as a transfer) through the beginning of junior year). I don't know what the transfer out rate was then.
The transfer numbers bounce around a lot, depending on a host of factors. But I do wonder if the recent numbers are inflated due to trends in the number of transfer athletes admitted (football, of course, but women's basketball had two, and I am sure others did too).
Regardless, since athletes make up 12% of the student body, you would expect that proportionally you'd wind up with around 7/62 transfers being athletes.
BC
In the 2021-23 range, there would have been downward pressure on the number of transfers, because of the students who took leaves during COVID and then came back to finish. That pressure should be pretty much complete now.
