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What do you mean by anyone-but-Stanford scoring penalty?

There were five mandatory sports: Baseball and Men's Basketball, Women's Basketball, Women's Volleyball and Women's Soccer. If we make the NCAA tournament in any of the first three, we win. There was a time in the not-at-all-distant past when Stanford would have scored in Baseball and Women's Basketball.

No scoring system is perfect, and I know that the DC tinkers with it every now and again--e.g. they added Women's Soccer to the mandatory list this year, hardly a bias against Stanford.

Having said all that, I would be happy to hear what specifically folks find unfair. For my part, I congratulate Texas on their fourth consecutive win.

Minor point of clarification; for this season there were four mandatory sports (men’s and women’s basketball, baseball, and women’s volleyball).  Women’s soccer is added next year.

You are correct that no scoring system is going to be perfect, and the current one, while it disadvantages Stanford compared to the old one, is no more or less “fair” than the old one.  That being said, I don’t like the animal-farmification of the Cup.  It used to be that all NCAA sports were considered equal, and winning the national title in men’s volleyball gave just as many points as winning it in men’s basketball.  Now, all sports are equal, but some (the mandatory counters) are a bit more equal than others.  Not a Stanford issue, since we compete in all four (soon to be five), though we don’t score in all of them, but imagine that you are one of the schools that doesn’t field a baseball (like Colorado); sucks to be you.  Moreover, why are some sports privileged over others?  You might think it’s based on the number of D1 schools that offers the sport, but you’d be wrong: more schools offer men’s cross country (315) than baseball (293) and more schools offer women’s cross country (347) and women’s track (339) than soccer (335) or volleyball (332).  Hell, more schools offer women’s tennis (300) than baseball (293).  Moreover there is already a trophy that tiers its sports (the Capital One Cup).

I understand that some people think its unfair that Stanford cleans up in niche sports like men’s gymnastics (12 schools) men’s water polo (25), men’s volleyball (25) and women’s water polo (34),  but if the goal of the cup is to encourage schools to have a broad athletics profile, then one way to encourage more schools to offer sports like skiing (10 schools) and rifle (17 and 22 schools for men’s and women’s, respectively) is to say that they count just as much as men’s basketball.

BC

[BostonCard]

What do you mean by anyone-but-Stanford scoring penalty?

There were five mandatory sports: Baseball and Men's Basketball, Women's Basketball, Women's Volleyball and Women's Soccer. If we make the NCAA tournament in any of the first three, we win. There was a time in the not-at-all-distant past when Stanford would have scored in Baseball and Women's Basketball.

No scoring system is perfect, and I know that the DC tinkers with it every now and again--e.g. they added Women's Soccer to the mandatory list this year, hardly a bias against Stanford.

Having said all that, I would be happy to hear what specifically folks find unfair. For my part, I congratulate Texas on their fourth consecutive win.

Minor point of clarification; for this season there were four mandatory sports (men’s and women’s basketball, baseball, and women’s volleyball).  Women’s soccer is added next year.

You are correct that no scoring system is going to be perfect, and the current one, while it disadvantages Stanford compared to the old one, is no more or less “fair” than the old one.  That being said, I don’t like the animal-farmification of the Cup.  It used to be that all NCAA sports were considered equal, and winning the national title in men’s volleyball gave just as many points as winning it in men’s basketball.  Now, all sports are equal, but some (the mandatory counters) are a bit more equal than others.  Not a Stanford issue, since we compete in all four (soon to be five), though we don’t score in all of them, but imagine that you are one of the schools that doesn’t field a baseball (like Colorado); sucks to be you.  Moreover, why are some sports privileged over others?  You might think it’s based on the number of D1 schools that offers the sport, but you’d be wrong: more schools offer men’s cross country (315) than baseball (293) and more schools offer women’s cross country (347) and women’s track (339) than soccer (335) or volleyball (332).  Hell, more schools offer women’s tennis (300) than baseball (293).  Moreover there is already a trophy that tiers its sports (the Capital One Cup).

I understand that some people think its unfair that Stanford cleans up in niche sports like men’s gymnastics (12 schools) men’s water polo (25), men’s volleyball (25) and women’s water polo (34),  but if the goal of the cup is to encourage schools to have a broad athletics profile, then one way to encourage more schools to offer sports like skiing (10 schools) and rifle (17 and 22 schools for men’s and women’s, respectively) is to say that they count just as much as men’s basketball.

BC