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UCLA watched the Uconn game tape and did to  Chiney what they did, she still has not learned from that experience, why would she think a falling down shot is better than passing to an open teammate as I recall Bonnie was 3 of 5 and that kept us in the game in the first half nd Sara had also hit a 3.

I'm not sure I entirely agree with this.  I'm curious what VG's sharp eyes saw on this front.  It seemed to me that UConn defended Chiney by pushing her out of the paint before she got the ball, but that UCLA defended her by trying to deny her the pass, but also by pushing her with their bodies even when she did get the ball close--the latter was seldom called.
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agree with 81's analysis of UConn and UCLA's D on Chiney. But also agree with VG that every team will try to employ the same D as UCLA - tempting our guards to dribble penetrate. This will certainly be true if see a quick backcourt team like Kentucky, Duke or A&M. Sure would help Amber to have Toni back there with her. As Tara said, we struggled more with Amber on the bench than we did with Chiney sitting.

I would add that we've seen this movie before as many of Stanford's teams have had the same issue having very few dribble penetrators (either by lack of skill or coaching design). Our O was starting so high that when (and if) Chiney got the ball, she already had 2 people on her. We need more give and go's and screens, then dump to open player. We have  seen Tinkle/Ruef/Chiney do it just not enough, especially if Tinkle is at the 3 and Ruef is at the elbow looking to pass (which she does great) to Chiney down low.

UCLA got burned by putting so much pressure on Chiney and letting Orrange blow past them. Kudos again to Amber!

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[quote author=WAcard link=topic=7652.msg59945#msg59945 date=1363025380]
UCLA watched the Uconn game tape and did to  Chiney what they did, she still has not learned from that experience, why would she think a falling down shot is better than passing to an open teammate as I recall Bonnie was 3 of 5 and that kept us in the game in the first half nd Sara had also hit a 3.

I'm not sure I entirely agree with this.  I'm curious what VG's sharp eyes saw on this front.  It seemed to me that UConn defended Chiney by pushing her out of the paint before she got the ball, but that UCLA defended her by trying to deny her the pass, but also by pushing her with their bodies even when she did get the ball close--the latter was seldom called.
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agree with 81's analysis of UConn and UCLA's D on Chiney. But also agree with VG that every team will try to employ the same D as UCLA - tempting our guards to dribble penetrate. This will certainly be true if see a quick backcourt team like Kentucky, Duke or A&M. Sure would help Amber to have Toni back there with her. As Tara said, we struggled more with Amber on the bench than we did with Chiney sitting.

I would add that we've seen this movie before as many of Stanford's teams have had the same issue having very few dribble penetrators (either by lack of skill or coaching design). Our O was starting so high that when (and if) Chiney got the ball, she already had 2 people on her. We need more give and go's and screens, then dump to open player. We have  seen Tinkle/Ruef/Chiney do it just not enough, especially if Tinkle is at the 3 and Ruef is at the elbow looking to pass (which she does great) to Chiney down low.

UCLA got burned by putting so much pressure on Chiney and letting Orrange blow past them. Kudos again to Amber!