[PrinceLightfoot]

Call it self-sanctimony if you will. I hope it makes you feel good. What happened to these people is WORSE than what happened in the gas chambers because the indigenous Americans are practically extinct. When Americans were protesting apartheid, many South Africans pointed out that Americans had no room to criticize South Africans' treatment of the indigenous Africans because Americans had killed off their indigenous residents.

These are not mascots. These are human beings.

And yes, Ferrari, it does feel a little different when we substitute words like nigger, spick, and kike for redskins, doesn't it?

I have no dog in this fight, but the expressed antagonism is something I have not seen on this board in my very short time here and if I find its manifestation extremely disappointing. Personally, I find the term "Chicano" highly offensive, but I could care less that I was asked to check the box that said "Chicano/Mexican-American" on most Stanford forms that requested my ethnicity. I laughed at it, checked the box, and went on my way...it's not what people call me; it's what I respond to...

Isn't EVERY country that exists today as well as every race guilty of atrocities at some point in their history? Every thing that exists today was at one point conquered with the indigenous people displaced or eradicated.  No one holds the moral highground.

The mascot argument I think ties into the slippery-slope argument that was previously stated. Given the way legalism works in this country, nothing surprises me.

[PrinceLightfoot]

Call it self-sanctimony if you will. I hope it makes you feel good. What happened to these people is WORSE than what happened in the gas chambers because the indigenous Americans are practically extinct. When Americans were protesting apartheid, many South Africans pointed out that Americans had no room to criticize South Africans' treatment of the indigenous Africans because Americans had killed off their indigenous residents.

These are not mascots. These are human beings.

And yes, Ferrari, it does feel a little different when we substitute words like nigger, spick, and kike for redskins, doesn't it?

I have no dog in this fight, but the expressed antagonism is something I have not seen on this board in my very short time here and if I find its manifestation extremely disappointing. Personally, I find the term "Chicano" highly offensive, but I could care less that I was asked to check the box that said "Chicano/Mexican-American" on most Stanford forms that requested my ethnicity. I laughed at it, checked the box, and went on my way...it's not what people call me; it's what I respond to...

Isn't EVERY country that exists today as well as every race guilty of atrocities at some point in their history? Every thing that exists today was at one point conquered with the indigenous people displaced or eradicated.  No one holds the moral highground.

The mascot argument I think ties into the slippery-slope argument that was previously stated. Given the way legalism works in this country, nothing surprises me.