11-20-2015, 09:57 AM
Lombardi with an article on the 1990 game: http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/...e-thinking
Here's a story about a wild ending in the Big Game
11-20-2015, 10:14 AM
I need to find some footage of that game's finish. I think the two-pt conversion, the onside kick recovery, and the personal foul were probably *way* more dramatic than words can describe :)
11-20-2015, 10:32 AM
"I have nothing to say and I am saying it."
--- John Cage
"I have nothing to say and I am saying it."
--- John Cage
11-20-2015, 10:52 AM
I was at that game, in the C.al section, and the end of the game was beyond satisfying. When I watched my recording of it a week or so later, I found myself completely sucked in by the drama of it, irrespective of the fact that I knew exactlly how it was going to come out. Unbelievable, in the nicest possible way. :)
I was at that game, in the C.al section, and the end of the game was beyond satisfying. When I watched my recording of it a week or so later, I found myself completely sucked in by the drama of it, irrespective of the fact that I knew exactlly how it was going to come out. Unbelievable, in the nicest possible way. :)
11-20-2015, 11:07 AM
The funny thing, that's when Glyn Milburn set the previous single game all-purpose yard record. Who remembers that? I certainly didn't until I read it this year.
11-20-2015, 01:26 PM
(11-20-2015, 11:07 AM)Yvonne link Wrote:The funny thing, that's when Glyn Milburn set the previous single game all-purpose yard record. Who remembers that? I certainly didn't until I read it this year.
For what ever reason, I remember that quite well.
The 1990 game was dramatic and exciting even beyond the final 10 seconds. The Milburn vs White "can you top this" show was pretty great.
Similarly, the 1982 game was dramatic and filled with pro-c.a.l. refereeing mistakes even before the final kickoff.
[Remember fans making the TD signal for any bad referee call began because of a play in the first half of that game - and I think continued for near 10 years.]
(11-20-2015, 11:07 AM)Yvonne link Wrote:The funny thing, that's when Glyn Milburn set the previous single game all-purpose yard record. Who remembers that? I certainly didn't until I read it this year.
For what ever reason, I remember that quite well.
The 1990 game was dramatic and exciting even beyond the final 10 seconds. The Milburn vs White "can you top this" show was pretty great.
Similarly, the 1982 game was dramatic and filled with pro-c.a.l. refereeing mistakes even before the final kickoff.
[Remember fans making the TD signal for any bad referee call began because of a play in the first half of that game - and I think continued for near 10 years.]
11-20-2015, 01:51 PM
Nan3cy,
We might have been seat neighbors at that game. I watched that from 50 yard line seats smack dab in the middle of a Bunch of B.ear Backers, with my wife who was pregnant.Â
I saw my father-in-law cry two times that night. The first was at the final gun; the second was after we got home and my wife showed them the ultrasonic image of their new granddaughter.
One of the best games I've ever seen at any level. Strangely, once Easy Ed caught the TD that brought Stanford to within one I was pretty satisfied with the outcome no matter what. Watched the ending in a freaky preternatural calm. First, they went for the win. Second, Stanford, after some bottom-feeding from the Elway days had beaten ND in South Bend earlier that year had sort of crashed and burned against Southern California, Oregon and maybe one other game. So it wasn't clear that the Green era was going to be any better than the Wiggin or Elway eras. But man they looked good that day and clawed back from the grave more than once.
Unfortunately, while that last 12 seconds of game time is riveting and pretty crazy, in real time it took forever ("clear the field the game's not over") and it doesn't fit neatly into an 8 second montage complete with hysterical screaming. "Oh the band is on the field!!!!" Not too many people have really seen this or remember it outside the rivalry. At the 100th Big Game they showed both clips (a pretty sporting gesture on Stanford's part btw), but couldn't even finish the '90 replay because the game resumed and interrupted it.
We might have been seat neighbors at that game. I watched that from 50 yard line seats smack dab in the middle of a Bunch of B.ear Backers, with my wife who was pregnant.Â
I saw my father-in-law cry two times that night. The first was at the final gun; the second was after we got home and my wife showed them the ultrasonic image of their new granddaughter.
One of the best games I've ever seen at any level. Strangely, once Easy Ed caught the TD that brought Stanford to within one I was pretty satisfied with the outcome no matter what. Watched the ending in a freaky preternatural calm. First, they went for the win. Second, Stanford, after some bottom-feeding from the Elway days had beaten ND in South Bend earlier that year had sort of crashed and burned against Southern California, Oregon and maybe one other game. So it wasn't clear that the Green era was going to be any better than the Wiggin or Elway eras. But man they looked good that day and clawed back from the grave more than once.
Unfortunately, while that last 12 seconds of game time is riveting and pretty crazy, in real time it took forever ("clear the field the game's not over") and it doesn't fit neatly into an 8 second montage complete with hysterical screaming. "Oh the band is on the field!!!!" Not too many people have really seen this or remember it outside the rivalry. At the 100th Big Game they showed both clips (a pretty sporting gesture on Stanford's part btw), but couldn't even finish the '90 replay because the game resumed and interrupted it.
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working .I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. Peter Gibbons
Nan3cy,
We might have been seat neighbors at that game. I watched that from 50 yard line seats smack dab in the middle of a Bunch of B.ear Backers, with my wife who was pregnant.Â
I saw my father-in-law cry two times that night. The first was at the final gun; the second was after we got home and my wife showed them the ultrasonic image of their new granddaughter.
One of the best games I've ever seen at any level. Strangely, once Easy Ed caught the TD that brought Stanford to within one I was pretty satisfied with the outcome no matter what. Watched the ending in a freaky preternatural calm. First, they went for the win. Second, Stanford, after some bottom-feeding from the Elway days had beaten ND in South Bend earlier that year had sort of crashed and burned against Southern California, Oregon and maybe one other game. So it wasn't clear that the Green era was going to be any better than the Wiggin or Elway eras. But man they looked good that day and clawed back from the grave more than once.
Unfortunately, while that last 12 seconds of game time is riveting and pretty crazy, in real time it took forever ("clear the field the game's not over") and it doesn't fit neatly into an 8 second montage complete with hysterical screaming. "Oh the band is on the field!!!!" Not too many people have really seen this or remember it outside the rivalry. At the 100th Big Game they showed both clips (a pretty sporting gesture on Stanford's part btw), but couldn't even finish the '90 replay because the game resumed and interrupted it.
We might have been seat neighbors at that game. I watched that from 50 yard line seats smack dab in the middle of a Bunch of B.ear Backers, with my wife who was pregnant.Â
I saw my father-in-law cry two times that night. The first was at the final gun; the second was after we got home and my wife showed them the ultrasonic image of their new granddaughter.
One of the best games I've ever seen at any level. Strangely, once Easy Ed caught the TD that brought Stanford to within one I was pretty satisfied with the outcome no matter what. Watched the ending in a freaky preternatural calm. First, they went for the win. Second, Stanford, after some bottom-feeding from the Elway days had beaten ND in South Bend earlier that year had sort of crashed and burned against Southern California, Oregon and maybe one other game. So it wasn't clear that the Green era was going to be any better than the Wiggin or Elway eras. But man they looked good that day and clawed back from the grave more than once.
Unfortunately, while that last 12 seconds of game time is riveting and pretty crazy, in real time it took forever ("clear the field the game's not over") and it doesn't fit neatly into an 8 second montage complete with hysterical screaming. "Oh the band is on the field!!!!" Not too many people have really seen this or remember it outside the rivalry. At the 100th Big Game they showed both clips (a pretty sporting gesture on Stanford's part btw), but couldn't even finish the '90 replay because the game resumed and interrupted it.
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working .I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. Peter Gibbons
11-20-2015, 02:00 PM
Nice to hear the voices of Hal Ramey and Bob Murphy. But it's even nicer to be reminded of the amazing events that I saw in person. Since it can never be better than this Big Game, I have not been back to Berkeley since.
"We have an unwritten rule around here not to do anything stupid."
-Casey Jacobsen, Feb 3, 2000
Nice to hear the voices of Hal Ramey and Bob Murphy. But it's even nicer to be reminded of the amazing events that I saw in person. Since it can never be better than this Big Game, I have not been back to Berkeley since.
"We have an unwritten rule around here not to do anything stupid."
-Casey Jacobsen, Feb 3, 2000
11-20-2015, 02:23 PM
Wonder if Ed had possession while still in the end zone. Looked like there was a bit of a bobble. Of course without the 14 cameras of modern CFB hard to say...
11-20-2015, 02:28 PM
We weren't neighbors, Jacketree. I was with two C.al friends and a bunch of their friends in the end zone... None of this 50-yard-line stuff for us plebeians.
My second favorite memory of the game -- after the ending of course -- was when a woman was trying to get from field level to seats behind ours. Because of all the yahoos sitting on the steps, she was trying to go up the bleachers, but having a problem at our row because no one would stand up. So I stood up and as she passed, I leaned over, tugged on my red sweater, and said, "I'd like to point out who's got the manners in this crowd." Fortunately, she had the grace to think that was funny.
Well, maybe that was my third favorite -- after Glynn Milburn's performance. Between him and Russell White (that's who it was, wasn't it?) were making both defenses look pretty inept.
My second favorite memory of the game -- after the ending of course -- was when a woman was trying to get from field level to seats behind ours. Because of all the yahoos sitting on the steps, she was trying to go up the bleachers, but having a problem at our row because no one would stand up. So I stood up and as she passed, I leaned over, tugged on my red sweater, and said, "I'd like to point out who's got the manners in this crowd." Fortunately, she had the grace to think that was funny.
Well, maybe that was my third favorite -- after Glynn Milburn's performance. Between him and Russell White (that's who it was, wasn't it?) were making both defenses look pretty inept.
We weren't neighbors, Jacketree. I was with two C.al friends and a bunch of their friends in the end zone... None of this 50-yard-line stuff for us plebeians.
My second favorite memory of the game -- after the ending of course -- was when a woman was trying to get from field level to seats behind ours. Because of all the yahoos sitting on the steps, she was trying to go up the bleachers, but having a problem at our row because no one would stand up. So I stood up and as she passed, I leaned over, tugged on my red sweater, and said, "I'd like to point out who's got the manners in this crowd." Fortunately, she had the grace to think that was funny.
Well, maybe that was my third favorite -- after Glynn Milburn's performance. Between him and Russell White (that's who it was, wasn't it?) were making both defenses look pretty inept.
My second favorite memory of the game -- after the ending of course -- was when a woman was trying to get from field level to seats behind ours. Because of all the yahoos sitting on the steps, she was trying to go up the bleachers, but having a problem at our row because no one would stand up. So I stood up and as she passed, I leaned over, tugged on my red sweater, and said, "I'd like to point out who's got the manners in this crowd." Fortunately, she had the grace to think that was funny.
Well, maybe that was my third favorite -- after Glynn Milburn's performance. Between him and Russell White (that's who it was, wasn't it?) were making both defenses look pretty inept.
11-20-2015, 03:16 PM
(11-20-2015, 02:23 PM)dabigv link Wrote:Wonder if Ed had possession while still in the end zone. Looked like there was a bit of a bobble. Of course without the 14 cameras of modern CFB hard to say...
Plus, hard to say whether or not he made "a football move"Â :P
"It's not what you don't know that gets you in trouble. It's what you think you know that just isn't so."
Mark Twain
(11-20-2015, 02:23 PM)dabigv link Wrote:Wonder if Ed had possession while still in the end zone. Looked like there was a bit of a bobble. Of course without the 14 cameras of modern CFB hard to say...
Plus, hard to say whether or not he made "a football move"Â :P
"It's not what you don't know that gets you in trouble. It's what you think you know that just isn't so."
Mark Twain
11-20-2015, 03:26 PM
I am chagrined to say that I (at the prompting of my wife and her friend) left after the last C.al TD. As we arrived street level outside the stadium, I heard the incredible roars and turned to head back in. I was severely overruled and as we walked, we continued to hear massive outbursts, which clearly were not elicited by C.al kneeldowns. We saw a cab w/ a couple of people leaning in through the windows and went over. The cabbie had the game on the radio and told us what was unfolding. He maxed out the volume and ultimately drew a crowd of about 40-50 listeners. It was stunning to eventually see what actually occurred inside.
I am now divorced and the differences underlying our respective impulses to the situation at hand played no small part in our marital resolution.
I am now divorced and the differences underlying our respective impulses to the situation at hand played no small part in our marital resolution.
"It's not what you don't know that gets you in trouble. It's what you think you know that just isn't so."
Mark Twain
I am chagrined to say that I (at the prompting of my wife and her friend) left after the last C.al TD. As we arrived street level outside the stadium, I heard the incredible roars and turned to head back in. I was severely overruled and as we walked, we continued to hear massive outbursts, which clearly were not elicited by C.al kneeldowns. We saw a cab w/ a couple of people leaning in through the windows and went over. The cabbie had the game on the radio and told us what was unfolding. He maxed out the volume and ultimately drew a crowd of about 40-50 listeners. It was stunning to eventually see what actually occurred inside.
I am now divorced and the differences underlying our respective impulses to the situation at hand played no small part in our marital resolution.
I am now divorced and the differences underlying our respective impulses to the situation at hand played no small part in our marital resolution.
"It's not what you don't know that gets you in trouble. It's what you think you know that just isn't so."
Mark Twain
11-20-2015, 03:49 PM
(11-20-2015, 03:16 PM)CornFed link Wrote:[quote author=dabigv link=topic=13688.msg142462#msg142462 date=1448054610]
Wonder if Ed had possession while still in the end zone. Looked like there was a bit of a bobble. Of course without the 14 cameras of modern CFB hard to say...
Plus, hard to say whether or not he made "a football move"Â :P
[/quote]
The NFL has different rules about catches...
(11-20-2015, 03:16 PM)CornFed link Wrote:[quote author=dabigv link=topic=13688.msg142462#msg142462 date=1448054610]
Wonder if Ed had possession while still in the end zone. Looked like there was a bit of a bobble. Of course without the 14 cameras of modern CFB hard to say...
Plus, hard to say whether or not he made "a football move"Â :P
[/quote]
The NFL has different rules about catches...
11-20-2015, 03:52 PM
(11-20-2015, 01:26 PM)CTcard link Wrote:[quote author=Yvonne link=topic=13688.msg142422#msg142422 date=1448042846]
The funny thing, that's when Glyn Milburn set the previous single game all-purpose yard record. Who remembers that? I certainly didn't until I read it this year.
For what ever reason, I remember that quite well.
The 1990 game was dramatic and exciting even beyond the final 10 seconds. The Milburn vs White "can you top this" show was pretty great.
Similarly, the 1982 game was dramatic and filled with pro-c.a.l. refereeing mistakes even before the final kickoff.
[Remember fans making the TD signal for any bad referee call began because of a play in the first half of that game - and I think continued for near 10 years.]
[/quote]
I remember Glyn Milburn was an all-purpose machine and that game was just the best in the series really. I knew at the time he was having a monster game. I remember learning in various publications after the game that he had a monster game, and I knew certainly could recall that stat line emerging for different reasons since that game. It also helped that Stanford needed every single one of those yards. Not so sure C-Mac's performance will be as memorable since it was during a mid-season game with a comfortable margin of victory.
(11-20-2015, 01:26 PM)CTcard link Wrote:[quote author=Yvonne link=topic=13688.msg142422#msg142422 date=1448042846]
The funny thing, that's when Glyn Milburn set the previous single game all-purpose yard record. Who remembers that? I certainly didn't until I read it this year.
For what ever reason, I remember that quite well.
The 1990 game was dramatic and exciting even beyond the final 10 seconds. The Milburn vs White "can you top this" show was pretty great.
Similarly, the 1982 game was dramatic and filled with pro-c.a.l. refereeing mistakes even before the final kickoff.
[Remember fans making the TD signal for any bad referee call began because of a play in the first half of that game - and I think continued for near 10 years.]
[/quote]
I remember Glyn Milburn was an all-purpose machine and that game was just the best in the series really. I knew at the time he was having a monster game. I remember learning in various publications after the game that he had a monster game, and I knew certainly could recall that stat line emerging for different reasons since that game. It also helped that Stanford needed every single one of those yards. Not so sure C-Mac's performance will be as memorable since it was during a mid-season game with a comfortable margin of victory.
11-20-2015, 10:16 PM
(11-20-2015, 10:32 AM)Robbie link Wrote:I've watched this many times. Smiled every time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEkXwQ_CmGw
Never gets old. Never. The Revenge
(11-20-2015, 10:32 AM)Robbie link Wrote:I've watched this many times. Smiled every time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEkXwQ_CmGw
Never gets old. Never. The Revenge
11-21-2015, 09:06 AM
(11-20-2015, 10:32 AM)Robbie link Wrote:I've watched this many times. Smiled every time.So wonderful. So fitting that C.al fans and C.al players both contributed mightily to the Stanford win with those two final 15 yard penalties. C.al hybris makes the catharsis that follows so much better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEkXwQ_CmGw
(11-20-2015, 10:32 AM)Robbie link Wrote:I've watched this many times. Smiled every time.So wonderful. So fitting that C.al fans and C.al players both contributed mightily to the Stanford win with those two final 15 yard penalties. C.al hybris makes the catharsis that follows so much better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEkXwQ_CmGw
(11-20-2015, 01:26 PM)CTcard link Wrote:[quote author=Yvonne link=topic=13688.msg142422#msg142422 date=1448042846]
The funny thing, that's when Glyn Milburn set the previous single game all-purpose yard record. Who remembers that? I certainly didn't until I read it this year.
For what ever reason, I remember that quite well.
The 1990 game was dramatic and exciting even beyond the final 10 seconds. The Milburn vs White "can you top this" show was pretty great.
Similarly, the 1982 game was dramatic and filled with pro-c.a.l. refereeing mistakes even before the final kickoff.
[Remember fans making the TD signal for any bad referee call began because of a play in the first half of that game - and I think continued for near 10 years.]
[/quote]
Yes, the bounced-ball "catch" in the endzone by Mariet Ford (jersey #1?) and subsequent TD signals made by students at that game, basketball games, and Gaieties the following year to name a few instances. Too bad there was no instant replay back then.
(11-20-2015, 01:26 PM)CTcard link Wrote:[quote author=Yvonne link=topic=13688.msg142422#msg142422 date=1448042846]
The funny thing, that's when Glyn Milburn set the previous single game all-purpose yard record. Who remembers that? I certainly didn't until I read it this year.
For what ever reason, I remember that quite well.
The 1990 game was dramatic and exciting even beyond the final 10 seconds. The Milburn vs White "can you top this" show was pretty great.
Similarly, the 1982 game was dramatic and filled with pro-c.a.l. refereeing mistakes even before the final kickoff.
[Remember fans making the TD signal for any bad referee call began because of a play in the first half of that game - and I think continued for near 10 years.]
[/quote]
Yes, the bounced-ball "catch" in the endzone by Mariet Ford (jersey #1?) and subsequent TD signals made by students at that game, basketball games, and Gaieties the following year to name a few instances. Too bad there was no instant replay back then.
11-21-2015, 07:57 PM
I liked the 1988 game. 19-19 tie, Robbie Keen the C.al kicker had gone 17 of 19 that year and made all 23 extra points. Bruce Snyder called the future All American, the "Cadillac of college kickers." The ball was on the Stanford three yard line with four seconds left. Snap, spot, kick, thump. I had such crappy tickets, the kick happened right in front of me. The last tie there will ever be in a big game. A tie's like kissing your sister, however we kept the Axe, having won the year before. Stanford was 3-6-2 and C.al finished 5-5-1.
The Screw of '82. Stanford is 20-11-1 against Ca.l since then.
Nice article by Art Spander: http://www.gostanford.com/ViewArticle.db...=208077543. I loved the line "That 1990 game at Ca.l, the Golden Baers postured and penalized their way to defeat."
Final little post script. I was looking for the Wikipedia article on Cal football, and I mistakenly typed "University of California Football" (no page found), then "University of California, Berkeley Football" (also not found). I realized my mistake and removed the word "University" and typed in "Golden Baers" instead. Presto.Â
The Screw of '82. Stanford is 20-11-1 against Ca.l since then.
Nice article by Art Spander: http://www.gostanford.com/ViewArticle.db...=208077543. I loved the line "That 1990 game at Ca.l, the Golden Baers postured and penalized their way to defeat."
Final little post script. I was looking for the Wikipedia article on Cal football, and I mistakenly typed "University of California Football" (no page found), then "University of California, Berkeley Football" (also not found). I realized my mistake and removed the word "University" and typed in "Golden Baers" instead. Presto.Â
Audaces fortuna iuvat
I liked the 1988 game. 19-19 tie, Robbie Keen the C.al kicker had gone 17 of 19 that year and made all 23 extra points. Bruce Snyder called the future All American, the "Cadillac of college kickers." The ball was on the Stanford three yard line with four seconds left. Snap, spot, kick, thump. I had such crappy tickets, the kick happened right in front of me. The last tie there will ever be in a big game. A tie's like kissing your sister, however we kept the Axe, having won the year before. Stanford was 3-6-2 and C.al finished 5-5-1.
The Screw of '82. Stanford is 20-11-1 against Ca.l since then.
Nice article by Art Spander: http://www.gostanford.com/ViewArticle.db...=208077543. I loved the line "That 1990 game at Ca.l, the Golden Baers postured and penalized their way to defeat."
Final little post script. I was looking for the Wikipedia article on Cal football, and I mistakenly typed "University of California Football" (no page found), then "University of California, Berkeley Football" (also not found). I realized my mistake and removed the word "University" and typed in "Golden Baers" instead. Presto.Â
The Screw of '82. Stanford is 20-11-1 against Ca.l since then.
Nice article by Art Spander: http://www.gostanford.com/ViewArticle.db...=208077543. I loved the line "That 1990 game at Ca.l, the Golden Baers postured and penalized their way to defeat."
Final little post script. I was looking for the Wikipedia article on Cal football, and I mistakenly typed "University of California Football" (no page found), then "University of California, Berkeley Football" (also not found). I realized my mistake and removed the word "University" and typed in "Golden Baers" instead. Presto.Â
Audaces fortuna iuvat
11-21-2015, 08:51 PM
I was in the student section for this game. I have many great memories from the game. None of them can be related on a public board, I think. Am I past the statutes for misdemeanors?
Heroism is not defined by one great act, but by a lifetime of right action.
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